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  • I have elementary aged children that would like to do some sports for fun, but looking at the offerings, it seems like many are very competitive, require a lot of family investment in terms of money and time, and require a lot of investment in terms of training for the kids. I just grew up playing soccer with my friends on the weekends, and some of those kids went on to do great things in High School without this much training. Can someone please enlighten me as what is the new sports ecosystem nowadays?

    My daughter has done soccer shots in Berkeley that introduced her to the sport (which she didn’t fall in love with) without the huge strain on resources )time energy money). However spots did fill quickly. 
    She had some classmates that found a softball program through the city of Piedmonts rec department that was pretty reasonable in cost/time commitment. I’d check that direction if your children want to try sports before investing a ton of resources. Hope this helps!

    All of the area soccer leagues offer rec soccer in addition to competitive soccer--that's what you want to look for if you want something low-key. It sounds like you may have inadvertently been looking at the competitive teams. Rec teams are coached by parent volunteers, practice only once a week (and not at all in the spring--games only) and have a nominal registration fee, whereas competitive teams practice more often, have more games, cost much more, and have professional coaches. Our kids have played rec soccer with Piedmont, EBU, and Clippers over the years and all three are very mellow and not at all competitive (much to one kid's chagrin!) I have heard the same for Alameda and Albany/Berkeley, so I'd just start with the league closest to you and see where you can still register. Similarly, there's low-key rec basketball through city rec departments and local YMCAs if that's more up your child's alley, and similar options for other sports as well. While there are certainly kids who go the competitive route early on, the majority of elementary-aged kids we know who play sports play recreationally in relatively non-competitive leagues.

    This is just my experience, but from what I have seen it is very difficult for kids to play only rec sports and then participate in school sports at high school (and sometimes middle school level). It varies across sports, but for e.g. soccer, baseball, volleyball there are club teams for very young ages (especially soccer) and by the time they get to high school some of these kids have been training year-round for almost a decade, sometimes supplemented by private lesson and camps. Also, the kids who play on a club team together have an advantage in team sports because of the synergies, as well as the fact that e.g. a volleyball setter will be more likely to set, and a soccer player more likely to pass to, a friend/trusted teammate from their club team. That said, my sporty daughter played no sports until middle school years, started volleyball in 8th grade and is now a decent player on her high school team. But she was VERY dedicated to improving and spent a ton of her own time practicing, plus I am able to support her efforts by playing with her and sending her to extra camps, etc. It's pretty clear to me that if she had started even a year or two earlier she would have had a very different experience. Her cousin had a similar experience with soccer, he's a good player who has always done rec, but couldn't outcompete with the club players to get a spot on the high school team. 

    Here are a few that I've found to be enjoyable and instructional:

    Soccer Together www.soccer2gether.com is ALL about skill development while having fun and making friends. Great coaches!

    Aztec Tennis https://www.aztectennis.net/After-School-Program-Tennis-Coaching.html (at least at the beginner level, it's also the same approach. Haven't experienced more advanced classes yet

    UC Berkeley Youth Sports: If your kid is proficient at swimming but not interested/ready for a swim team, UC Rec Sports offers a 'pre-team' series that does more refined skill building and drills to increase endurance, but still in a non-competitive way, including some games. https://recsports.berkeley.edu/youth-recreation/year-round-programs/you…;

    Have fun! 

    I am in the same boat! I just want my kids to get some exercise, socialization and fun-- with multiple sports. I have no interest in having them super-specialized before the age of 10, revolving our lives around it and my daughters getting repetitive stress injuries.

    At least for soccer I'd note that many clubs have Competitive as well as Rec teams-- Rec teams typically only practice 1x week + Saturday game, are not traveling for tournaments, are much cheaper, and are run through volunteer (parent) coaches. We plan to sign up my younger daughter for this route. 

    You can look into Rec Leagues, but in general, I can commiserate. My college sophomore mentioned that at his incredibly large, something-for-everyone university, there are no noncompetitive sports opportunities except pick up games. Even the clubs who take everyone were still filled with high skilled and competitive players. Thinking he missed something, I reached out to the parent group and got 0 suggestions. So I think the short answer is yes. :(

    I have two adult "kids" and I noticed this with them even 10-20 years ago. One wanted to join "recreational" soccer at age 11 or 12, and it was already too late, he couldn't learn the skills to keep up at that point. My other one participated in several sports and activities, as long as the commitment was no more than 1-2 days per week (her choice), which starting from about age 10, was hard to find. I suggest checking with your local YMCA or public recreation department for sports and classes that have a low time commitment and are truly recreational.

    My kids started out playing sports for fun. We had no intention for moving toward competitive athletics for them; however; they are all now competitive athletes, per their own choice. I don’t know if I’d say it’s the best route but pretty early on, we saw the two roads diverge: club for fun versus playing for the longer term. Still, there are tons of leagues for kids to play for fun and sometimes I wish my kids would go back to that type of environment. What I think might have changed is that there are just as many young athletes gearing up for competitive athletes (meaning “gearing” them up for varsity level, college or beyond). Many parents pay top dollar for their kids to play a sport (“pay to play”). This stiffens the competition…other might  say it elevates the experience. I believe so much of the competitive aspect are parents helping to mastermind college entrances or high level high school team players so they are the star of the team. You will see this right away - where our kids train, the coaches call it bulldozer parenting and everyone sort of knows the level of competition to expect. Many parents will go elsewhere to have an experience more aligned with what they are looking for. You might have to sift through some clubs, teams and training before you find a good fit. 


    In our experience, recreation centers are a great place to start. It’s still low cost and people are there to learn and have fun. Our kids no longer play soccer, but really enjoyed the soccer leagues in the area. As parents, we never felt like there weren’t options for more club-for-fun options. Also, when he had no idea where to start, we went to the parks and watched youth sports there and got more insight there - which teams are more chill and so on. 
     

    It can be a tough landscape out there but there’s still a lot of fun. I want to add in “lessons learned the hard way”: things get very expensive so keep that in mind. There are certain sports, like tennis, where a private coaching session is $200 per hour and at some point they get you into 3 sessions per week. So the gear isn’t much of a cost but the learning curve is challenging and expensive. Back in the day, running was affordable. I heard the lacrosse team in our area that’s recreational has, on average $2,000+ of unexpected expenses. Just something to think about and would recommend asking about those hidden expenses (travel, etc). 

    I still think sports are so important for kids. If anything, the lessons gained as they learn how to get a little better at something they enjoy doing. 

  • As a child, I was a sports pariah. The last to be picked on teams. Dreading the mandatory PE where humiliation was guaranteed. Volleyball and basketball may as well be a dodgeball for me. I struggled socially due to my athletic inability. My spouse is not bad at sports but is not interested in them. We do not watch sports. So, our daughter has had zero introduction to any physical activities other than the usual running around and play or bike with friends. I read that it’s important for girls to play sports and it helps them feel confident as they grow older. I certainly felt that if I were good at a sport, I would have had an easier time in high school. Our daughter is brilliantly joyful, confident and extroverted and we hope she will maintain this personality as she enters puberty. I am a bit at a loss for where to start? I have asked her if she would be interested in sports. She said she would be interested in horseback riding or swimming. Neither seems easily accessible. She has enjoyed dance classes in the past but we do not feel comfortable sending her to indoor dance studio yet. We live on hills, so we have to go somewhere to play with balls. I would love to hear any ideas you may have on how to introduce a 9 year old to sports. Thank you. 

    I'll admit that swimming is a little hard to get into right now because pools are impacted and at least a couple of the local swim teams have waiting lists. Horseback riding is totally possible, we have friends with daughters in Berkeley who go to El Sobrante or Lafayette for riding. My daughter did karate at that age, which was great; would recommend trying. Yes, indoor stuff makes me nervous too but vaccines are coming so you might as well sign up now. I have heard good things about Albany Berkeley girls softball, which is a spring thing, and volleyball has a local league or two. We also got a trampoline, which is great exercise and teaches body awareness. My daughter also loves her scooter which she just does around the backyard.

    Big picture though, your question was phrased with a lot about you and your history. I know it's hard, but try to approach the subject of sports and exercise with your daughter with less fear and leftover feelings from your childhood. Buy a fun playground ball from Target and go to a school on the weekend to play wallball together. Do an outdoor fitness course together, or a YouTube food ninja workout. It should be fun! I'm sorry you had bad experiences, but your daughter can have a different experience.

    I'm a sports-loving mom, and I coach a girls' soccer team (have coached boys too). There's a large subset of girls who may not be super athletic or even that interested in sports, but they do it because it gives them time with their friends. I would ask around among your daughter's friends and just sign her up to do a sport with a friend. Age 9 is definitely still young enough to be new to a sport without feeling way behind. And there are so many options, including many outdoors. Soccer is great, and it is not at all unusual to pick it up at age 9. There's also softball/little league, lacrosse, track/running, tennis... all kinds of stuff that is relatively covid-safe. But I bet she'd be more likely to stick with it if she had a buddy.

    A while back, the Piedmont Rec department was hosting free clinics to introduce elementary school aged girls to a variety of sports. You could give them a call or get on their mailing list to find out when they'll do that again.

    ABGSL!  Albany Berkeley Girls Softball League. Both our girls started in the ‘80’s and the were involved in sports later at BHS and thru college.  They are proud Giants fans…it carries on.  Mostly it’s just fun team camaraderie at first but the skills are like you said, something to be proud of.  It does help to have a family member to “toss the ball” during the week at home… not just at practice.  
    Also I see there are still tennis lessons at King Jr High courts.  Good Luck.

    This is the best age for your daughter to get started on volleyball.  My daughter has attended both Absolute (in San Rafael) and Vibe volleyball club in Orinda (they also have in Walnut Creek).  There are a couple more out there which should work out for total beginners like your daughter (Golden Bear Volleyball club, RedRock in Alameda)  The tryout season is over but you can call the clubs and see if they are still taking in new players.  Good luck and hope she gets to like volleyball.  

    I was about 10 when we moved from a Catholic school with no sports to a public school with lots of sports. I really enjoyed softball because it wasn't as physically demanding as soccer or basketball, not many kids start super early so everyone was learning together, and it was a real team effort (in soccer I never touched the ball bc I couldn't keep up, in softball everyone gets a turn at bat :)) I played softball through high school. 

    I will second another commenter's suggestion of Albany Berkeley Girls Softball League.  The organization supports all of the positive aspects of a team sport.  The girls are taught to throw, catch and hit the ball.  The games are incredibly supportive, with girls rotating between positions and great care being taken to enable each girl to get a chance to hit the ball.  Parents regularly cheer for both teams.  The girls develop a bond with their teammates and also a sense of individual confidence.  My girls have played on various soccer and basketball leagues and ABGSL is hands down the most welcoming.  If you are looking for a team sport, ABGSL might be a good place to start.

    We also were not into sports before kids - participating or watching.  Somehow our kids found fencing (foil) when they were 7 and just love it. They are fully masked and also wearing paper masks these days.  Check out M Team fencing in the East Bay.  They have learned so much about themselves and have learned how to lose plenty of times and get right back up.  Foil is a lot like physical chess and requires mental acuity and focus. It is a good introduction to the sport.  Both my son and daughter have found true friends through it.

    If your child has any friends who play sports already or can be talked into trying, there's usually some benefit to trying to sign them up together. For carpool and also because they feel more comfortable with a buddy. In some ways it's less about whatever sport they are playing and more about finding a friend group and doing something fun together.

    I would also try to get your kids to commit in advance to trying a few times, not just once. So they understand that the first few practices will be challenging, but they will work through it and improve with the goal of having fun in the long term. The first time at a new thing is always a little rough, and it's better to send them with a reasonable expectation instead of trying to convince them its super fun immediately when they know it isn't.  

    If you don't want to be indoors, maybe try signing her up for a recreational soccer team. Albany Berkeley Soccer Club is one in the area. I'm sure there's some luck of the draw as to which coaches and kids you end up with, but we had a very positive experience signing my daughter up for the first time at age 11 (she's athletic, but had never played any organized sports). I think baseball is boring, but my sister says its easier than other sports to get up to a basic level of skills. So you could try that too. Hope you find something fun!

    Maybe consider a multi-sport summer camp? El Cerrito city has a good one. Otherwise I would say soccer might be a good choice - lots of local leagues and options, generally promotes teamwork and skill aquisition, etc. Can watch the US Women's National Team - great role models there. 

    I notice that your daughter mentioned non-team sports. The latter is a beginning. But since my husband and I follow women's basketball, I can't resist suggesting that you also take her to some high school or university basketball and soccer games, especially women's. We are long-time season ticket holders to Cal WBB, and our daughter loved going to games and screaming her head off for the Bears. Just watching a variety of live local events on weekends might give her some ideas. (I owe this thought to an interview with a Cal WBB guard whose athletic-minded parents made a point of introducing LaTasha and her brother to all kinds of sports, to their lasting pleasure and good health.)

    Bladium in Alameda has soccer skills classes that end in a scrimmage. Enrolling in a series could help your daughter decide if she likes it. What about a rock climbing gym? Would you try a group lesson as a family? Studio Naga has some outdoor classes for martial arts. Many kid activities have returned to indoor sites.

    Being a French-native, I am surprised at the level of athleticism of US kids at a very young age. My daughter is 5 year old. We've been playing sports since a young age without any emphasis on the technique and naively thought that it was the case of any parents. She started soccer and basketball this season and I can't wrap my head around that she is behind. The majority of the kids know how to play the sport. I am sharing this because 1. I believe that gap in sport skills only widen as the kids get the older; 2. Kids like sports and get motivated when they feel confident playing and have fun. 

    With that in mind, I recommend to start progressively, focusing on one activity that she can master and get confident in and expand from there. To find this activity, I will choose from the interests she voiced: 

    - dance class: you mentioned that you are not comfortable with indoor classes; there are dance studios in and around Oakland that propose classes in parks (example: https://destinyarts.org/programs/at-our-center/

    - swim class: it can be quite costly but the benefits may be worth it from a safety perspective and building confidence (Aquatech and Oaklantis are on the least expensive side; if they have waiting list, be patient they usually clear up) 

    - horseback riding: it is very expensive. I loved it while growing up but my parents did not have the means. What they found as a solution was to send me to summer camps with a horseback riding program. These are my favorite memories. I invite you to do some research if such programs exist. 

    I'm an adult taking rock climbing lessons from a coach, and have not yet enrolled my kids in lessons, but it's a sport that kids pick up and thrive in very easily. I take my kids to local crags and they are agile and excited to climb. Try some climbing lessons. If your student fits the profile of her clientele, check out Emily Taylor's Brown Girls Climbing program.

    I was like you, I dreaded PE, was the last to be picked for team sports and was mediocre at everything. I joined the swim team as a junior in HS because it meant I didn't have to suffer through a whole school year worth of sports (football, soccer, basketball, volleyball, baseball, running...), only one semester of swimming, and it being more or less an individual sport, I could try to make friends without needing to prove that I'm a good swimmer. I just had to attend all the practice, be nice, and then cheer people on when they raced (I rarely raced). 

    If I had a child who is new to sports, especially during covid times, I would suggest (1) rock climbing, (2) swimming, or (3) tennis. These are sports that are primarily outdoors (low covid risk), and they are individual enough so that she can practice and play without worrying about whether she is good or bad compared to others.  

    Rock climbing has low barrier to entry and is not expensive. Just need to buy shoes and harness/belay. She can join a climbing gym to learn the ropes, sort to speak, or she can start outside with climbing camps and groups. Everyone in the climbing group is going to be supportive of a kid who is trying to learn how to climb, and it's a sport works the whole body and builds strength.

    Swimming is one where there are lots of ways to excel. If she's a slow swimmer but has good endurance, she can be a distance swimmer. If she's fast, she can do sprints. There might be a stroke that she can excel at and gives her confidence. The hard part is finding a spot to swim these days. But it's a life skill and can lead to sports like water polo, diving, or scuba. I played water polo in junior college (also was mediocre, but by then I didn't care as much), it's a tough sport, but I felt like superwoman. 

    Tennis, need to find a court, but she can play against someone of comparable skills, so even if she is starting out, it shouldn't be a problem. 

    Your daughter sounds amazing and wonderfully adjusted.  She may not need sports to continue to be confident in who she is.  It's absolutely possible to develop confidence in all sorts of ways, and sports is only one of those ways.  That said, I have a daughter who plays soccer and swims.  She has strong friend groups in both sports, and her abilities in each sport does lend to her confidence.  As far as how to introduce your daughter to sports, you can have her try different things (say at the rec level) and see if she falls in love with anything.  Places like the YMCA or your city's parks and rec have short and generally affordable programs like dance, basketball, and swim.  During the summer, I recommend a sports camp, like Cal Youth Camps, where she'll get a little of everything.  Good luck!

    I gotta plug swimming though the parental commitment can be enormous if your daughter takes to it and wants to do year round. I have 2 daughters who swam from a young age through high school and one played water polo as well in HS and college. Here are the pluses: it’s a team sport yet one is really competing against one’s last fastest time and improving one’s strokes. It’s amenable to all body types and I really believe it builds body positivity. Wearing a bathing suit around others becomes totally natural and because it’s coed, kids tend to become used to being around each other and their bodies. The $ investment is reasonable for the amount of practice time and instruction. The equipment is minimal. The kids who swim tend to be nice and nice to one another. A good coach creates that expectation. The older swimmers are often great role models and can be warm and supportive of younger players. You child is always clean and tired. Swimmers tend to take their academic work seriously and down time at swim meets is often used for homework. Swimming can be stress releasing and meditative and it’s a life-long sport.  
    As an alternative, how about you both trying pickleball? It’s easy to learn, great for parent and child to learn and compete with one another—it’s not too taxing physically  and one improves quickly with practice—much faster than with many sports. It’s social. Equipment (paddle and balls) is inexpensive, courts are popping up everywhere. If she sticks with it, she can be beating adults quickly. She can get some friends to join. You may like it too. Easier and less costly than tennis and kinder in the body. Try it. 

    How about tennis or pickleball.  Both are played outside at a safe distance.

    I think the best way to introduce a sport is to have your child do it with a friend(s). My daughter started Fall volleyball (indoor) and will play Winter soccer (outdoor) through CYO (Catholic Youth Organization). We're at a public school so we tagged onto nearest parochial school since the parochials essentially have their own league. Are there any parents from your child's school organizing any group sports? If so, hop onto that. 

    On a side note, I was always picked last and never played sports as a child. I did play on high school teams and wasn't very good. I don't watch sports either but did enjoy watching some of the olympics. I guess I viewed sports as something fun to do and something new to learn (I took archery lessons at the local community college a few years ago); to get exercise and stay strong (because my job is physical and I don't want to hurt my back from work), and it's something fun to do with a friend. I don't emphasize winning but maybe because I'm not good at sports and that's ok :)    

    As the mother of a college-age super athletic girl (all sports) and now a grandmother of a non-sporty 4th grader (all sports), here are some suggestions.  We're getting our 4th grader involved in a sport and here's what we found:

    Swimming - Can be extremely difficult to get on a swim team, esp during Covid, and because it's often exclusive (not inclusive) and involves tryouts.  What is possible if you hop on it early are spring/summer swim lessons.  Semi-private or private lessons are great if cost is not an object.  You can try a couple of the hills clubs, El Cerrito Swim Center, and Canyon Club in El Sobrante.  Many places offer swim lessons and they fill up fast.  Great for confidence and possibly a future swim team without pressure.

    Horseback riding - We tried a couple lessons and camps.  Be aware that some group lessons by 4th grade are more for the experienced rider with the de riguer outfit and gear.  My daughter (back in the day) was mocked in a 2nd grade camp for not having "real" riding boots.  So you'll want to check for an experience that's truly for beginners. 

    Yoga -- Try yoga!  We found a kids class, our 4th grader loves it and it's something she can do at home too.  This might fit in with your daughter's interests.

    Tennis - There are places like Montclair Rec, Piedmont Rec or clubs that offer tennis lessons.  We liked this option because there's exercise and the opportunity to hit the ball around on public courts with parents or friends, actually fun.

    Recreational Sports -  So far, our 4th grader has confided that she's intimidated that most other kids around her seem experienced and already on teams for a couple years.  So we want to expose her to group sports in a welcoming setting. (We know about the competitive teams, so this is a switch!)

    After research, we found the local association in Lafayette (LMYA) that is recreational, no tryouts, no drafts, for the elementary school level. They offer seasonal sports with modifications for Covid.  We checked in to make sure these sports were appropriate for a 'late' beginner.  We also check the sport rules on the website which say a lot about whether it's recreational or competitive (half court or other modification of team rules, does every kid play, one practice, are games once a week).

    On your side of the tunnel, Piedmont Recreation has had good, inclusive sport programs.  Also Montclair & Albany have had options. No residency required. Two tricks are whether it's called recreational/intramural, and whether there are try-outs.

    This year, our 4th grader will be trying a rec sport, and she has to go 3x to try it.  She's confided that she's mostly nervous she 'won't be any good.' The positives are that the kids come from a mix of schools, there's opportunity to feel a sense of team, and to make a new friend.  We plan to play with the ball a bit at the playground or park ahead of time, so it's not an alien object!  We're taking this approach because neither parent was very athletic, one was shy, and now they wish they'd tried a rec sport when they were young. 

    There's a mile between being great at sports and being a 'pariah' and most all kids are in between. <smile>   You can see if she likes a team sport, or stick with solo activities like swimming, dance, yoga. Any or all of these activities are positive outlets! 

    Your daughter already is joyful, confident and extroverted -- you are so lucky! 

    From a grey-haired but kinda sporty grandma

    Here is one option for private swim lessons until you get on a team:  Sherman Swim in Lafayette, but there are many.  Tennis is kind of good because if your child needs a short-term "catch-up" then she can take a couple private lessons.  At 9-years your child would be starting tennis earlier than most.  Both are life long sports.  I had a lot of stress after reading about the dive in self-esteem for middle schools girls, myself, but I wanted to say that too much "engineering" based on statistical outcomes, in my opinion just adds to stress.  I have one girl on the high school tennis team, but she almost took a turn into musical theater, and that would have been great too.  

  • My son recently started playing flag football at school, and the coach wants them to do 100 pushups, squats, and calf raises daily. This seems ridiculous and excessive to me, if not downright wrong. The head of the aftercare program agreed with me--then he quit. I told my son that he can do 10 of each a day, and I'd sign off on it. But I can't imagine this is good for the other children. I'm going to email our pediatrician, but I wanted to hear what BPN parents have to say.

    My first thought is that doing all of those exercises daily would be too much effort and could cause some burnout unless your son is really motivated. Maybe every other day or 4-5 times a week is more manageable. I also wouldn't really consider body-weight exercises like that as strength training per se. Doing 100 squats and calf raises doesn't seem difficult and should be easily done in 5-10 minutes. The 100 pushups does seem a lot though. That's pretty strenuous for a kid. I would probably knock that down to 25 or 50.

    I asked a friend of mine about this who has been coaching boys' lacrosse at all levels K-12 for more than 15 years. He said 100 pushups, squats, and calf raises a day for 8 & 9 year olds is crazy and it sounds like the coach is very inexperienced. He said a more experienced coach would know that is way beyond what kids that age can do. It might be appropriate for high schoolers, but for 2nd and 3rd graders he would expect no more than 10 a day. Did the school hire this coach? You should complain to the principal or the PTA or whoever hired the coach that he appears to have never coached kids this age and would benefit from some coaching himself.

    I would suggest that you do exercises together so you can see how he is handling it. Start with ten reps of each, for a week. Work up to higher numbers, at the ebd if each week. If it gets to be to much, level off. 

  • Did we totally miss the boat? Or is there something low key out involving practice & teamwork for kids?

    Wasn’t up for the time commitment early on, but now I see the benefits of practice & weathering ups and downs with a steady group of people.  

    Is there a steady group activity which welcomes newbies (boy 9, girl12)?

    -Berkeley parent

    A 12 year old and 9 year old would both be welcome on a recreational soccer team regardless of experience.  Your son will have an easier time finding a team, however, since by age 12, lots of kids have moved up to travel/competitive soccer teams or dropped out.  That being said, there are still some girls' rec level soccer teams around.  I'd recommend contacting either the registrar for Albany Berkeley Soccer Club or the El Cerrito Spurs and ask about team openings.  Fall teams are forming now so it's a good time to inquire.

    For the late fall/winter months, I'd also recommend rec level basketball teams (either through the City of Berkeley or the YMCA).  For the spring months, your daughter may also enjoy playing with the Albany Berkeley Girls Softball League.  It's a very friendly and nurturing organization and I anticipate that the lack of prior experience would not be a problem. Maybe someone else can chime in about Little League teams.

    Martial Arts can be great. We do Kuk Sool Wan. There are lots of older kids and teens as well s adults and a flexible schedule to choose from. Also Basketball or Track tend to start a bit later than other sports.

    Yes there is!  Try http://berkeleylacrosse.org/

    Hi, 

    You didn't comment about what sports your children have an interest in. In Spring, the City of Berkeley has a great baseball clinic for boys and girls that is free! Coach Gene is outstanding at providing guidance and encouragement all while stressing sportsmanship. He knows  baseball and is wonderful at what he does. Best of all, the class is free! Look for it in the City of Berkeley activities guide for next Spring. 

    UC Village Rec Sports has nice soccer skills clinic. It is terrific when the adult organizer is present - he is great at encouraging sportsmanship with great skills support. I would check in to see if he will be present at all clinics or if his assistants will be present without him - the assistants when we participated are very good at teaching soccer skills but have varying levels of experience/skills of channeling/focusing the energy that can arise from a group of enthusiastic soccer kids in a focused way. 

    I hope you get a lot of other recommendations to help you and your children make an informed choice. My son was concerned about his skill level when starting a  sport and was hesitant to join a team but, when he did, he realized that he might be just as good if not better than other kids. So in addition to looking for an entry, consider encouragement to join any recreational league. Some will let you get a refund within 2 weeks of joining a team if they wanted to give it a try.(ABSC has many free skills sessions during the week for those who are in their league.)

    My kid is in the same boat. We signed him up for the Berkeley City Swim Team. 

    The Bay Area Ultimate community is a great place to welcome both kids! Ultimate is played at the middle school level across the East Bay, and at the high school level throughout the bay area. Middle school teams are often co-ed, and high school teams have single-sex teams and co-ed teams, depending on the season (fall or spring) and the player preferences. In the summer there is a vibrant club team season which combines kids from various schools. Some club teams also compete during the school year. Lots of opportunities. Kids can enjoy the sport at both a casual and welcoming beginners level, or all the way up the national high school championship level. You can check out Bay Area Disc or Oakland Ultimate on Facebook for starters. Here's a recent story on Berkeleyside: https://www.berkeleyside.com/2019/06/12/berkeley-highs-ultimate-frisbee-team-takes-home-national-title

    Definitely don't think you missed the boat! There are a lot of sports that kids only start later..... lacrosse, swimming, tennis come to mind. For your 12-year-old, rowing might be interesting (I have a kid who started rowing at that age). There's also water polo and once they get to high school things like badminton and mountain biking that are team sports that a lot of kids haven't tried til high-school age.

    I think most important is finding something that your kids really love and a nice group of teammates. The community that kids/teens build through sports can be awesome!

    We've had a bit of the same with our younger kid and here are 2 sports I strongly encourage you to check out: Ultimate Frisbee and Lacrosse. Ultimate in particular is very welcoming to all ages and any experience level, and you can find lacrosse rec clubs that are as well. What we love about Ultimate is that it teaches "the spirit of the game" more than any other sport our kids have been involved in, including cheering for the opposing team and encouraging genuine appreciation of all participants.

    Berkeley High's Ultimate team actually just won the national championship - they are amazing (and huge - I think 50 players). Our 16 year old son still plays both sports and our 12-year old daughter now plays Ultimate and soccer. Both kids have enjoyed both sports very much, and as parents we are very appreciative of the approach of both. BTW, our daughter, after not being involved in team sports in elementary school, now plays on her middle school soccer team (and Ultimate team). So it's not too late! Good luck!

    Youth field hockey is a great sport for boys and girls. Check out https://www.sfyouthfieldhockey.com/

    Also East Bay:
    http://eastbayfieldhockey.com/

    My kids are 9 and 11 and play with SF. Since it's a minority sport, I find it more welcoming of all-comers.

    Ultimate Frisbee! My kids love it. Very inclusive, supportive, team sport. A great workout too. Check out : https://bayareadisc.org/youth-ultimate

    Good luck in your search. 

    Studio Naga is a great martial arts school that encourages the practice and teamwork you mentioned.  They have a diverse group of friendly instructors and students and the kids seem to have lots of fun.  A great combo of community connection and personal growth. www.studionaga.com, 510-652-6242.

    East Bay Flag Football is also a great choice for both boys and girls of all ages and experience levels.  we have 2 kids on a team.  One was a total novice when starting.

    I coach rec soccer through East Bay United, and we still get players who are brand new to soccer every season. (currently coaching U12, with a child in 5th grade. This fall we will have two players that I know of who have never played soccer before.) So... I don't think you're too late at all! 

    Another idea... volleyball is one of those sports that kids often don't really start playing until middle school. Might that be a good fit for your 12 year-old? 

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Son refuses to play sports

Sept 2005

My son is in a soccer league but refuses to play. He has a new excuse every time - I'm tired, it's hot, I'm hungry. Do I stick it out and drag him to games & practices or let him quit? I feel bad for his teammates because they have to play more since he won't. I feel like it is a control issue! HELP! anon


Of course you should let your son quit the soccer team if he doesn't want to play! What could you possibly hope to gain by forcing him to continue? It's only a game -- if he's not enjoying it, he shouldn't be playing it. And if his teammates care about the game, they'll be glad that someone who doesn't want to play is gone. Ask your son what he'd like to do instead, and whatever it is, let him do it! Diane


Sounds like your son really knows that he doesnt' want to play, for whatever reasons. Having a son who didn't like little league, I'd say don't force. It's also really hard for the kids who like the game and want to play to have someone who doesn't want to play (and I assume is not a good player and maybe not a good team member) on the team.

There are plenty of other things your son can find (over the years) to be involved in. Not playing sports is really not the end of the world.

If you force him you could cause more damage than be helpful. What are your expectations of him playing sports? You may have to let go of some vision of how you want him to be. Good luck, I know this is a hard one. anon


You don't mention how old your son is or how long he's been playing or whether he's playing recreational or more competetive soccer, and my advice (as both parent and coach) would vary depending on the circumstances. If this is his first year, he may just not be ready yet, and I would not push it. If he's played for some time and this is his first expression of lack of interest, I would probably push harder to get him to continue. If this has been coming for some time, I'd let him quit. I wouldn't worry about the other kids having to play more. Heck, one of the hardest things as a coach is to divide up the playing time and keep kids on the sideline who WANT to play when a kid who clearly doesn't want to is standing around on the field. Have you talked to his coach about it? That would be where I would start.


My oldest son is very competitive and a total jock and his younger brother is a total anti-jock who hates and resists competition. I was signing my 2nd son up for everything the older one was doing, and it took me a while to realize that son #2 was just not into it. While I do think it is good for a kid to have some kind of exercise, I realize in retrospect that it isn't necessary to force them to do something they dislike, when there are so many other great options available. What kind of kid do you have? Is it the team aspect that he dislikes? Or does he shy away from competition? Or does he need a chance to work more on his skills so he feels more confident? Ask your son what he'd like to do instead. If he doesn't like team sports, there is swimming, tennis, bike riding, martial arts, fencing, skateboarding, climbing, sailing. If he likes being on a team but he just doesn't like soccer, there's baseball, lacrosse, roller hockey, basketball, volleyball, etc. Not sure what age your son is, but these sports are all available to kids in the bay area.

The only reason I can think of for insisting he stick it out is if he asked to sign up for soccer and now is flaking on it. In that case I would urge him to stick out the season, after all he is the one who initiated it. But if you're the one who initiated it, you should help him find out what his own interests are, because we all do well at things that we are interested in. Mom of boys


The first question is: who decided to sign him up for soccer? Him or you? If it's him you have a better case to have him stick by his choice. The second question is his age, 6 or 12? If he's very young don't be too opinionated, or he will end up hating that sport. Last question: is this a pattern? Does he always to that, just to challenge you, or does he really not like soccer?

When my kids were young (bet. 5 and 8) I always wanted to sign them up for the usual soccer/basketball/baseball stuff, it is useless if they don't like it. It frustrate everybody and do not teach them anything. Now they choose their own sports, I'm even a bit reluctent at first to test their motivation and they end up performing and enjoying themselves. Good luck! anon


It seems to me that your son is not enjoying soccer and you expect him to play soccer for some reason (Because he is a boy? Because daddy did it or wants him to? Because his friends do it and it's part of the social circle you want to fit in as a family?). I think exercise is very important, especially in this computerized era, but some children do not like sports and that should be respected. Could you discuss the value of movement with your son and then listen to him and let him choose the exercise he wants? Maybe he'd prefer to run on a track, maybe he's drawn to martial arts or sees a possibility in yoga. Maybe he thinks dancing or ballet would feel great. Maybe water is his element and he's happy everytime he swims. Maybe he doesn't want a regular class and gets to walk the dog and climbs around on playgrounds or likes to kick ball just when he feels like it with friends or family on a grassy field. Please listen to him and ignore what you had in mind for him. He does want to please, but is caught in a situation where he feels that pleasing everyone else is more important than pleasing himself. Let him discover what he loves and all of you will be genuinely happy. Anonymous


maybe your son really hates playing sports. There are some very funny essays about this type of thing by David Sedaris. Your son may not necessarily be gay, but he may really, really hate being forced into this. Why not ask him if he wants to quit?


Don't force it. Take him out. I had the same situation with my son and a different sport. He fought going all the time. There are so many sports to choose from and if it is your goal to get him involved, let him decide which one. My 7 year old loves art so we do art classes. I teach Physical Education and I love sports/fitness and I think it is crazy NOT to do sports at his age (but that is me!) so if he would rather do something else, then so be it. Your child will be drawn to something eventually. When he takes an interest in something just be ready to work with him. Matthew