How Much to Pay a Nanny for a Nanny Share
– Mar 21, 2021(11 replies)
Hey all! (Soon-to-be) first time parent here looking to get some advice about a rate on a slightly interesting nanny share situation.
We have a lead on a nanny who seems really great and experienced (7+ years, referral from a friend of a friend), but looking around the board I wasn't sure whether the rate was too high or whether it was in the ballpark.
We live in Berkeley, the nanny would be commuting from Alameda (!). We're nanny-sharing with a friend who only needs a nanny for 3 days out of the week, while we need all five. Standard 40hrs/week, holidays. Both kids would be about 4-6 months old at the start. The nanny offered $25/hr for one kid (which we would pay for 2 days out of the week) and then $20/hr *per kid* (= total $40/hr) for both kids.
From what I've read, the $25/hr for a single child seems totally fair, but I wasn't sure about the $20/hr per kid for both. We're not really balking at it to be honest since we can afford it and the nanny seems genuinely great, but as first-timers we would just love some reassurance that we're in a reasonable ballpark. Do these rates seem generally reasonable to you folks?Mar 21, 2021
$25/hr seems low -- I have found the standard rate to be around $30/hr plus some sort of benefits. It would be advisable to research the current Californian Domestic Workers laws which have changed quite a bit, and are very clear about required breaks, taxes to be paid, etc. ( www.CA.gov department of industrial relations) Check out all your hidden expenses before making a final decision. Good luck.
Hi! We started a nanny share with our child at the same age as your children. I talked to about 15 different nannies and rates were $13-20 per hour per child in a shared care situation. The rates for two children seems high but there are many factors to consider including how you plan to handle nanny payment and your expectations of the nanny’s duties. I’ve seen some families have a lower hourly rate but provide a weekly supplement for mileage. Good luck.
It's on the slightly higher end of the nanny share rate, but not crazy high, especially considering that she seems to have a good amount of experience and a trusted referral. I can't remember exactly what we paid for a nanny share situation back in 2017 but I think it was like $17 or $18 and that experience wasn't great. I think you could pay a bit less if you kept looking but sounds like you're OK with the cost, able to afford it, and feel comfortable with this person taking care of your kiddo. Since you're not in need of care for a little while, you have time to find someone else if you felt like continuing your search. Good luck, and congrats on becoming parents!
– Dec 24, 2020(4 replies)
I am having a hard time finding updated rates. We are in Berkeley and are curious as to how much people are currently paying for nanny shares. Would you mind sharing your information?
thanks!Dec 24, 2020
Two kids any age $30. Haven’t hear of nanny shares with more than two, but maybe $10-15 more per kid?
We pay $30/hour for 40 hours/week for 2 toddlers in Oakland. We also provide paid sick/vacation/etc. Our nanny is very good/experienced and i think this is on the medium/high end of spectrum because of that.
In our share, each family is paying $15/hour for 2 infants ($30/hour total). It would be $24/hour for one infant.
– Oct 3, 2020(4 replies)
Looking into starting with a nanny or nanny share. We work 8.5 hour days (8-4:30) with a 1-1.5hr commute, so will need childcare for ~11 hours a day. We are planning to offer 12 hours of pay to cover a missed lunch. I see varying resources that cite OT to be paid at >40hrs/wk +/- 8hrs/day. Other families must also work 8 hour shifts and need childcare coverage for >8hrs/day. We would like to contract for 3x12hr days (36hrs), with OT at >40hrs/wk or more than any agreed upon length per day (ie if there is an emergency or issue getting home on time).
Also, many of the resources for fair hourly rate are outdated. We are planning to pay $15 each family, so $30/hr total when shared. The other family does not need 11 hour days, so our family was going to pay $25/hr for the hour or so on each end of the day that the nanny is alone with our kid. We are also planning to offer 2wks paid PTO and essentially unlimited unpaid sick/vacation. Kids are 6mo.
Is this too complicated? Does it seem fair?
Thanks, BPN.Oct 3, 2020
Not too detailed. Writing everything down so no one is surprised is essential to avoiding misunderstandings and hurt feelings.
I'd also add language around sick days, what it will look like to leave the share should it be necessary, and potentially understandings about vaccine expectations with the other family, etc.
In this new world, you may also want to consider adding language around smoke days and, and precautions/expectations around covid/other illnesses.
In California, I’m pretty sure you have to pay OT for any hours over 8 in one day. That’s a stricter rule than paying OT for any hours over 40 in one week.
I think the pay rate and terms you’re proposing sound fair. We paid overtime and PTO for our nanny. Too many families don’t pay overtime and there’s a term for that: wage theft. It’s immoral and illegal.
California law requires that OT be paid once you hit eight hours in a given day (vs. federal law, which only requires it over 40 hours per week) so if you have 12 hours days, four of the hours must be at the OT rate. (If you go beyond the 12 hours, you are required to do 2x the regular rate, so be aware of that for sure.) We had a similar situation with our share, and the way we structured it was that there was a one-child and two-child rate. Each day would have specific one-child and two-child hours (since one family used seven hours and the other nine hours, with a one-child hour on either end). So the first hour was one-child, hours 2-8 were two-child, and the ninth hour was one-child rate x 1.5. It was complicated on paper but worked out fine in real life. If, say, both families use 8 hours but they are offset by an hour (which we had with our second child at one point), you do need to pay OT as soon as the nanny's workday hits 8 hours, regardless of which child she's caring for. In a situation like that, you would want each family pay half of the total cost (regardless of whether they were the 8-4 or 9-5 family).
– May 4, 2020(1 reply)
What is the going rate of a nanny share for a 3 - 6 month old? I plan on having my first child in July and will want to take on another baby once she is 3 - 6 months old (of course depending on what's going on in the world at that time). I have over 15 years of early childcare experience (yet most of it is with children 2.5 -5 y.o.), I've taken the RIE training and I'm also Montessori trained for 2.5 - 5 y.o.. What would seem reasonable to ask for? Thanks!May 4, 2020RE: Nanny share pay for babies ()
In my experience it has been about $13/hr from each family. So the nanny made $26/ hr total for 2 babies. This was off the books with 2 different nannies and families, same price.
– Sep 27, 2019(2 replies)
For Emeryville nanny share parents, how are you interpreting the $16.30 minimum wage? I am in a nanny share and I was paying the going rate we researched of $15 for each share for a total of $30 per hour. That is also what our nanny quoted then but with the new min wage changes, she is asking for $16.30 from each family. Does the min wage requirement apply to the total hourly rate for bother families? I just would like to get some thoughts and feedback from other Emeryville parents as this is all new to us!Sep 27, 2019
In a nannyshare, you are (by law) joint employers of your nanny--so the minimum wage is based on the combined pay, not each family's solo pay. This applies to overtime pay as well--overtime kicks in after the eighth hour of work, even if neither family actually hits eight hours independently (e.g., if one uses 8-4 and one 9-5--overtime is owed for 4-5 pm).
The minimum wage is an hourly rate, not a rate per employer. Thus, the $30/hour is still very much above the new minimum wage.
– Jun 19, 2017(4 replies)
What is the going rate for a Nanny Share? I'm am told it can be upwards of $14 per child !
Thank youJun 19, 2017
I'm new to the nanny share and the lowest I've seen is $11/hr per child, and the highest is $15/hr. Depending on the share, you have to be prepared for paying for holidays (I have heard of between 8 and 11 per year), 2 weeks vacation (pretty standard), and sick days (I've heard of between 5-8 days per year).
Some do it above table, some under the table. It took me a long time to find a share based on price, location, time, age of other child, etc. It's a process.
Good luck with your search.
Ours is $12.50/kid. (Oakland -- mostly 15 month olds -- might be more for newly-starting nanny shares?)
When we were looking for a nanny share, the most typical price I heard was $12/hour per child, ranging from $11 to $13.
– Jan 4, 2017(1 reply)
Hi. My daughter is in a nanny share with one other child from a different family. We each pay $12/hr so she makes a total of $24/hr for the two children. I would like my second child to join the share for a few months but I don't know what to increase the nannys pay to. I've heard $2 increase is standard (so I would pay $14/hr for my two kids). Any advice or experience is greatly appreciated!Jan 4, 2017RE: Rate for new baby in share ()
I think the way you have to look at it is what's the *total* going rate for 3 children. Divide that by 3 and then you pay two parts and the other family pays one part. I'm out of the loop because it's been 15 years since my child graduated from nanny care. But we did have two and then 3 kids in our share. 15 years ago it would be approx $18 for one child, $24 for 2, and $30 for 3. Something like that. So if the nanny is caring for three children at once, the family with one child would pay $10, and the family with 2 would pay $20. Ask the nanny what her rate is for 3 children. Then you pay 2/3 of that.
Caring for 2 toddlers plus an infant is much more demanding for the nanny than just the two toddlers she has now (I am guessing you and the other family each have a toddler). Another $2 an hour does not seem like fair compensation for the added workload involved to do infant care plus manage the other two. Moreover, since adding in an infant will mean less attention for the two toddlers, the other family might feel they should pay less, now that there are 3 in the share. They might prefer to find another situation where their child is one of only two children, not one of three including an infant. Many families in this situation will just hire a new nanny to care for their toddler and infant, and pay the two-child rate.
– Sep 22, 2016(5 replies)
I am a new mom trying to figure out what childcare we can afford for our daughter and also logistics. She won't need care until May 2017, and all of the "nanny available" postings on here are for nannies who are available immediately or a month from now. On the other hand, it seems that day cares are filling up for next spring already. If we decide to go the nanny share route, is there any way to "reserve" a spot with a nanny now, or should I wait until a month before I go back to work, and hope that I can find the right nanny? Then if we can't, would it be too late to get into a good day care?
Also, has anyone done research recently into what a typical hourly rate is for nannies and nanny shares? I am currently visiting a lot of day cares which seem to range between $1100-$1800. I'm assuming nannies are more expensive.
Any thoughts are much appreciated.
KatieSep 22, 2016
I can't answer your question for nanny costs but if I were you I would search for a good daycare and reserve your spot. You can always cancel it a month or so out if need be. Daycares almost always have waiting lists so there will be a child that would fill your spot pretty quickly if you do back out. That would at least give you an option to fall back on if you can't find a nanny you like for your budget.
I almost joined a nanny share with two other families last month before we got a spot in a day care, and the nanny was asking $15/hour per child. I don't know how typical that is though. From looking around on BPN, most advertisements for families to join a nanny share don't say what the nanny charges, but I do think I saw one post where the nanny charged $12/hour per child. Hope that helps!
Hi! Currently doing some research on this and interviewing nannies and it looks like nanny shares to run anywhere between $24-$30/hour (for two babies), so about $12-$15/hour per family. From what I've found, they typically start becoming available a month or two in advance, so it's probably too early to look for May 2017 at this point. Though you might be able to find a current share situation where someone knows they are leaving a bit farther in advance??
Hope that's helpful!
– Jul 30, 2016(1 reply)
We are currently exploring the possibility of setting up a nanny share and talking to potential partner families. If you are in this situation, and can provide advice on any of the following, it would be much appreciated:
1) what are you paying for a two child nanny share, per child per hour? Please specify net or gross!
2) What do people do about reporting income to state and federal authorities and also about withholding? Do most people simply pay the nanny gross wages (and pay the govt payroll (employer side) taxes) and leave it to the nanny to pay income tax, SDI, etc.? Or is it more common practice for the employer to handle all of these things for the nanny?
3) what service, if any, do you use to calculate employer side tax, and various deductions from nanny wages? It looks like you can do this manually yourself, but it is fairly complicated. I have heard good things about Care.com, but is more expensive, and I've also read that Sure Payroll is very good but less expensive.
4) most of the information I've seen online concerns one household employer and one nanny. How do you handle all of this with two households paying one nanny's wages?
5) any other hot tips or "things you wish you'd known" before you started this process would be much appreciated!Jul 30, 2016
I would strongly encourage you to consult a tax attny. But to give you some info/things to consider in case it's helpful: We don't do a nanny share but pay our nanny over the table via Intuit's payroll service. It costs $22/month and I believe it's worth it--you plug in all the info and it calculates your taxes, populates the forms, sends reminders, etc. It also pays her via direct deposit. I don't believe it's legal for you to expect her to pay the SDI, ETT, and not withhold CA state Income tax. The CA tax payments would be fairly straightforward to split as (I think) because it's really not that much money and you pay it either quarterly or at the end of the year, but it could get a bit more complex on the federal side when you file if one family is the employer and you both want to take advantage of federal childcare credits or want to list the childcare expenses on your return. I personally would not be comfortable waiting until the end of the year to count on the other family to pony up their share of the outstanding federal taxes if we were the only one reported as the employer. I suppose you could work out an arrangement where monthly/quarterly the other family paid you their share of the withheld tax and employer-paid SS, etc. so that you don't have to worry about holding the bag on that when you file your federal return.