Teenager's trouble waking up

My son has always struggled with waking up. This has been the case for years so it’s not Pandemic related.  During academic year I’ve always gotten him up insisting he’s up before I leave for work.  Multiple alarm clocks around his room sometimes work. He’s now 18 so my ability to insist on an earlier bedtime is hard. He’s has a summer job that starts at 10:30 am.  I can take him while I’m still working from home and it’s only 10 minutes max from our place, but this can’t last forever. I’m ready to tear off the bandage which could result in missed work, going late, or even being fired. Not ideal for either one of us. What techniques have others employed to help their kid “set” an internal body clock and get their child to wake up with aids or even with no help?  
 

Stumped and frustrated parent

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I'm the parent of two young adults, one who had a lot of difficulties along the way but is now doing great and one who has always been responsible/independent, etc.

I suggest that you tell your son that it can't be your problem anymore. Tell him that if he wants your help in figuring out a solution, he should ask for it, but otherwise you are leaving it up to him. And if he doesn't ask for help, then don't wake him up in the morning! If he does ask for help, you could still offer to wake him up, but only if it's not a power struggle between you in the morning. Other ways he can wake up are more and more obnoxious alarm clocks in his room but far from his bed! But again, don't suggest this unless he asks for help. Also, if you are no longer going to be able to give him a ride after a certain date, be sure he know in advance what that date is.

It's good for him to figure this out at a time when the worst consequence is losing his summer job... (if that does happen, be sure not to increase your financial support to him; he can easily get a job somewhere else since every place is desperate for workers!)

Good luck!

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I'd have had an easier life in a number of ways if it were possible to "reset" my night owl body clock.  It can't be done. But obviously your son will have to eventually find his own ways of coping with an internal rhythm that doesn't match the way most of the world operates. Besides alarms, the biggest help for me is a timer on the bedroom lights, so that they go on before I need to wake up.  Also, change the alarm sounds every so often, because you eventually get too used to them.  Going to bed earlier seems obvious, but doesn't help much; typically you just end up lying awake until the time you're naturally sleepy anyway.  In college, I did not take 8am classes, and in my career it's been important to me to have flexible hours.  My 20-year-old is also a night owl; we have both been known to stay up all night in order to be somewhere important early in the morning. I can't pull all-nighters as easily as I did at 18, but it's still an option I'll consider at need.

Honestly, as a parent, I wouldn't worry about it too much. Wake him up, since that works, when you can. Once he's living on his own and doesn't have that assistance available, he'll figure out his own strategies. My 20yo was the same way in high school, it was a huge effort to haul him up in the morning. But in college, no longer having parental help, he managed to get to class on his own; he currently lives alone and has a job this summer that requires a 6am start, and he manages that too. (He sleeps in the afternoon.) Most likely your kid will cope too.

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Hi,

I have two kids that have a hard time waking up. One thing that you might check is whether your son has sleep apnea.  My daughter was tested with the take home system, it fell off.  She had had it on for 20 minutes and Kaiser reported she was fine.  Finally a referral to the overnight sleep lab which showed severe sleep apnea when reviewed as pediatric. No snoring but she had a stuffy nose.  Falling asleep in the car while I was driving...  The biggest success was surgery for a deviated septum.  ( They insisted she keep on with the cpap but she had minimal success.)  A takeaway Id like to share is that the overnight tech told me that the take-home harness is not a good way to evaluate sleep apnea.  Id also caution that you have them report using the proper age.

My son has great difficulty waking up but has yet to do the sleep study. 

Good luck, its worth a try!

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I strongly recommend contacting Lauren Asanrow, PhD at UCSF   
im not sure the link i pasted is working, but you can google her name and sleep and it should come up

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My daughter would not wake up for school. We ended up screaming at each other while the carpool waited…Here’s what I did 1. Made an agreement that the carpool driver would wait 5 minutes them leave without her. 2. Paid her $5/day if she made the carpool on time. 3. I called into her room cheerfully (but not too) 30 minutes before carpool to tell her time to get up. Then I backed the hell off. It killed me not to remind and to rush her.  What am I, a control freak? Sometimes I got so anxious I would have to leave the house. 
BUT she didn’t miss one carpool for those precious two months of in-school this spring. I needed to get out of the way and let her have the consequences.