Evergreen State College (Olympia, WA)

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  • West Coast college rec. for ADD teen?

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    Looking for college/univ. recommendations for our HS junior.  Recently Dx with ADD, she doesn't want to talk about college; the whole idea is overwhelming and she's worried about failure.  Doesn't like high school, except for the social part; not sure what she wants to study, or do with her life.  But is an excellent self-advocate, very verbal, good writing skills, gets mostly good grades.  Has held PT jobs, and done very well.  We know she has great potential, and is, in many ways, a perfect candidate for college life; we just need her to see it.  Wants to live in a diverse community (not rural) on northern West Coast; Bay Area or north.  Needs resources on campus -- help with organization, schedules, counseling, executive functioning.  Public school a plus, but willing to go private if it's the perfect fit where she can thrive.  Any recommendations or suggestions welcome.  Thanks.

    Your daughter sounds exactly like mine!  I don't have specific school recommendations as my daughter is only considering art schools and digital design/film schools.  However, I do highly recommend our Educational Therapist, Amy Cheifetz.  She opened our eyes to gap year programs and the very real possibility of going to colleges that make my daughter happy, where she fits in, etc (was hard to see that before).  She'd be a great resource in finding the right place for your daughter.  Amy's contact info: (510) 207-2995. Good luck!

    Great news! I had a fabulous experience at Community College and met quite a few high school students taking community college courses while still in high school. In high school, I was able to take a couple college courses that helped me meet high school requirements. At Berkeley Public Library we had a community college representative from Peralta colleges come to speak at the library in fall 2016 and she spoke about a lot of opportunities available through community colleges both for high school students and college level students. We are hoping to host another program soon about community colleges on a related topic, so check our calendar. 

    Community College gave me the opportunity to figure out what worked best for me and a chance to learn about a lot of support options through Disabled Students (which is really a fabulous program), I qualified for EOPS as a first generation college student with low income, and overall, the community college I attended made sure I had access to anything and everything I qualified for. This made a big difference for me. What I discovered through trial and error was that I did best if I attended college part time while working part time. I excelled at that schedule, all the way through to getting my BA and Master's degree with high gpa's. I also didn't think much of high school overall and like many teens, wasnt sure about college.  I discovered that I really enjoyed college and did even better academically in college once I discovered how much I liked the academic challenge and environment. It was so much better than high school and I learned a lot about myself and what I wanted to do.  I am grateful I had so much support and I learned about so many opportunities which helped my transition to a four year college (UC Berkeley) because I knew where to go to get help and accommodations. Four year colleges have the same sorts of programs and community colleges help you with that transition very well. 

    I have encouraged a lot of teens who don't enjoy high school to keep their minds open for college, which has so much more flexibility. By taking your general education requirement courses, you can discover what you do enjoy and take classes in what you are interested in for your major. My husband, also, attended community college where he, like me, discovered his interests were very different than his first academic plan and it helped him figure out where he wanted to study, all while being considerably more affordable and meeting the same rigorous academic requirements of four year colleges. 

    I'm happy to discuss my experience with you or your daughter. 

    My son sounds similar and has struggled with ADD and slow information processing,  There ed services have been very helpful.   He also hated high school and traditional academics and has loved Evergreen College in Olympia, Washington.  It is a WUE school so we did get a $3000 fee reduction each year.  Classes are small and there are only narrative evaluations.  He most often has had papers and final projects, not much standard testing.  Classes are integrated so there is only one class to manage, even though there are three subjects. 

    My son is a senior and recently told me that he wished that he'd taken a gap year or even two.  He felt like he wasn't really engaged in his studies until late sophomore/early junior year. This quarter, he is doing an independent study and internship.  Feel free to contact me if you have more questions,

    Consider CSU Channel Islands. It's a small school, they accept >70% of applicants, seem to have good resources for kids with special educational needs.

    Wow. That's sounds almost exactly like me. The fear of failure was so paralyzingly that I ended up doing a JC (took the SAT and application pressure off) and transferred to UCLA.   I was always a great worker and got excellent grades b/c excelling in school was just another job, but did terribly at standardized tests. At the end of the day, the only thing that mattered is where I graduated FROM. My work ethic has taken me far. At the same time, not going to a reputable 4-year University out of high school was a big blow to my ego after having worked so hard to get good grades. In retrospect, I might have hired a strong personal tutor for the SAT instead if one of those generic courses and applied to universities of choice. Even if just to see if I could get in!  A JC is always a good back-up option and many have programs affiliated with UC's. Good luck!

    There's plenty of info out there about colleges for kids with ADHD/ADD.  Check ADDitude or Understood.org.  Or the Parents Education Network website.  

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  • Need feedback about Evergreen State College

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    Evergreen State College is on my daughter's list of possibilities as well as Cornish School of Art in Seattle. Any comments that could help us make a good decision?

    Thanks,
    Cathy

    Hi,

    evergreen was one of the west-coast colleges my son checked out. I think it is one of those "love it or hate it" places, and that that it is either a really good fit for a kid, or they will know that it's just not them. It's a beautiful campus, and seems like it would be a great school if it were the right match for your kid. My son knew immediately it wasn't right for him - too quirky, not alternative in the way he is alternative, too far away from the city, the academic program was too vague - he needs more structure. My very superficial sense is that It seems like a good match for kids who are very self-motivated, confident in themselves, and who have independent in their personal tastes and progressive politically.. If you're familiar with the Colleges That Change Lives book/website, it's one of their schools, which to me is a very good recommendation.

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My son sounds similar and has struggled with ADD and slow information processing,  There ed services have been very helpful.   He also hated high school and traditional academics and has loved Evergreen College in Olympia, Washington.  It is a WUE school so we did get a $3000 fee reduction each year.  Classes are small and there are only narrative evaluations.  He most often has had papers and final projects, not much standard testing.  Classes are integrated so there is only one class to manage, even though there are three subjects. 

My son is a senior and recently told me that he wished that he'd taken a gap year or even two.  He felt like he wasn't really engaged in his studies until late sophomore/early junior year. This quarter, he is doing an independent study and internship.  Feel free to contact me if you have more questions,

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Our son is thinking about applying to Evergreen

May 2011

Our son is thinking about applying to Evergreen. Does anyone have personal experience with this school. Our son lacks motivation if he is not really excited about a class and a teacher. He likes very interesting classes, but is not especially self-directed. What is this school really like and who succeeds there? anon


My son just finished his freshman year at Evergreen, and it was a wonderful experience. He is creative and very bright, but has never been motivated by grades. If he doesn't like a class or a teacher, he doesn't put forth much effort, and his high school transcript reflected that. It has been liberating for him to be free of grades at Evergreen. His professors have definitely held him accountable though--the narrative evaluations are quite comprehensive. The work load is respectable, and can even be heavy. Because the student-professor ratio is small (generally one prof for every 24 students), and classes are taught seminar style, it's almost impossible to fly under the radar. Students have to come to class, and it's pretty obvious if they slack off.

It has also been wonderful for my son to have no general education requirements. He was able to jump right into the writing and film programs he was interested in taking. However, it can be very difficult to get your first choice program. Because all the programs are interdisciplinary, students often find themselves enrolled in programs that include some subject matter that they don't really want to study. It's just not really true that you can spend four years there and escape studying subjects you aren't interested in. The classes are very engaging though, and students often discover new passions.

Student life at Evergreen is pretty good. The campus is safe and beautiful, located outside of Olympia with 1000 acres of forest and a slice of beach on Puget Sound. It is very socially accepting, and there are lots of alternative kids there, mixing freely with more traditional types. Be warned though, there is a pretty heavy drug scene at Evergreen--mainly pot and hallucinogens. Also, the climate can become an issue, especially for kids prone to depression. It rains constantly, and can be very dark during the winter days. Although most kids get used to the weather, some struggle with Seasonal Affective Disorder. The dorms are generally pretty nice, and lots of freshmen are able to get single rooms in six bedroom suites. The food really leaves something to be desired, even after the school built a gorgeous new cafeteria. Hopefully, that will improve.

My son is thriving at Evergreen, and has made tons of friends. There are plenty of Bay Area kids there, which makes the transition easier. In some ways, it feels like a small (albeit very eclectic) private college. Even with out-of-state tuition, the price tag is much less. For the right kid, it is an amazing choice. Good luck! Happy Evergreen Mom


My son is just finishing up his first year at Evergreen. I recently flew up to visit him and got a better feel for the school. My son, who transfered in as a sophomore, has been frustrated that he did not get into the music classes he wanted this year. But he hung in there and took a variety of courses and is doing well. He enjoys his professors. He has already registered for fall and got into his top choices of music classes. My son mentioned that many students at Evergreen are adrift, not particularly motivated, and smoking a lot of weed. I think the school appeals to free-thinking, creative types. Feel free to contact me with questions. Wilma


Hi - My son is starting as a freshman next year at Evergreen. It's an alternative liberal arts college that is one of the Washington State schools. We're really excited. It's listed as one of the ''Colleges that Change Lives,'' http://www.ctcl.org/colleges/evergreen. There are no grades, most courses are interdisciplinary, and there are student-designed ''programs'' rather than majors. My impression (from talking with people, reading the materials and visiting): Great for self-directed students and those who thrive with hands-on work and collaboration. An emphasis on non-traditional learning methods -- lots of class discussion & projects, rather than exams, for the most part. No huge lectures. My son was inspired when we went to visit and met a couple of the faculty in his area of interest by their passionate commitment to teaching. Downsides: students can drift if not self-motivated, and we hear there is a significant drug scene (true, however, at lots of colleges). Future Geoduck Parent


Our son is finishing his junior year at Evergreen. He has loved the school and been extremely engaged in his education. Mainly, students take one class each quarter and many different topics are covered. For instance, a science class may include everything from statistics, video production, writing seminars as well as week long camping trips. Group projects are also a large part of the curriculum. Without mandatory classes, each student is free to create his own program, so it is very important to continually get advice from advisors and professors. If a student is not motivated, it can be difficult to succeed with the loose structure, but that being said, your son may find both the environment and style of teaching very motivating. If you visit, do so on one of their special orientations as you have access to many administrators, professors and students. Feel free to email me and we can set up a time to talk.........my son would also be willing to talk with your son. Melissa


If you don't want to pay for a private college counselor, and you can't get an appointment with your child's high school counselor, he/she and the high school library will surely have several 2010 books (also available online) with independent and student opinions on selected colleges. The Underground Guide to Colleges comes to mind.

Basic comparative info on colleges (cost, test scores, size) is available free on the College Board's website.

I've heard Evergreen is smallish, a beautiful campus, far away, and a place where students plan their own curriculum (that's on the college's own website). Ask around to find some local students who go there. Of the three I know, one transferred out to another school for a better music program. Good luck!


Loren Pope has written two books about applying to colleges and I encourage you to read them. Looking Beyond the Ivies and 40 Colleges That Change Lives. He likes Evergreen.

Looking Beyond the Ivies will help you feel much better about the college application process. I think there's quite a bit of wisdom in that small book.

Good luck and try not to get too caught up in the application and selection madness. There are plenty of good schools out there and hopefully he'll find a good fit. mother of a rising senior