Acne in Teens & Preteens

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  • Girl Teen Acne Questions

    Apr 25, 2022

    When our daughter turned 13 or so she was seeing an esthetician for waxing (Mediterranean skin!) who started her on Dermalogica products on her face. That person moved and we found a new provider, who has her on some organic skincare line. The problem is, she still has acne, despite all the cleansing, toning, moisturizing, etc. and her routine was getting crazy. It was taking her an extra 10-15 minutes in the morning just to prep her skin (granted she moves slow LOL). Honestly, I used Noxzema as a teen and have used very little on my skin since. I use a tea tree pad and light moisturizer at night and I'm good to go.

    Maybe I'm just lucky (or old) but I feel like the problem is all the stuff she's been doing to her face with these products for 4+ years. It's like, I feel her skin just needs to be skin and have a chance to not constantly be bombarded with products. So I suggested over break that maybe she TAKE a break from all the skincare routine. 10 days in and she is breaking out like crazy (though not huge zits, just small pimples all over). She is using a warm washcloth on her face in the shower at night to remove oil and open her pores and that's all.

    I guess my question is, other than - why does she have to use all this stuff on her face to keep acne away (especially when it wasn't working anyway) - will her skin just finally even out after a few more weeks and stop breaking out? Has anyone had this experience with their teen? I don't mind her taking care of her skin, but the time and money involved seems crazy when a simpler routine might be better for her. Does anyone have recommendations for a simpler product or dermatologist that won't prescribe meds but just assess her skin and recommend what may help? TIA

    Hello, 

    Teen acne is SO hard.  It could be that you're right about too many products, but it also could be that your daughter does need prescription topical or oral medication to help control the acne.  Just cleaning her face may not be enough, and it's pretty demoralizing for teens to have to live through weeks and months of pimples.  It definitely sounds like it would be good to get a second opinion about treatment, but it seems that if you limit yourself to dermatologists who will only look at topical treatments, and if she turns out to be one of the many teens who needs more intensive treatment, then you may delay getting her the kind of help she needs.   

    I recommend you see an actual dermatologist and get a medical opinion. One who specializes in teen acne. There are many options in our area, two include Dr Icecreamwala and Dr Ting. Both are good. Your assesment is unlikely to be accurate - it's most likely the type of acne your daughter has. In my family, we have very little acne and I didn't take my son's acne seriously. It started around 12 and was nuts by 14. He was miserable and we tried EVERYTHING including many diet modifications and aestheticians, blue light - you name it. Finally we went to a dermatologist who took one look and said, it's cystic acne, it has already scarred him, and he needs to use isotretinoin (accutane). I was appalled and immediately went for a 2nd opinion. Exact same response. I waited another 6 months in fear, and finally relented under my son's begging and after speaking with numerous doctor friends. Within 2 weeks of starting, the acne was dramatically reduced on his face. It took 2-3 months to stop on his back. After 4-5 months the scarring started to reduce (but will always be there because I waited so long, especially on his shoulders). His skin has been perfect for about 18 months now. He is MUCH happier and I only regret waiting so long.

    How difficult that your daughter is experiencing acne—the bane of a teenager's existence! When changing routines, acne generally gets worse before it gets better. Be patient, it may take a month or two to recalibrate.

    My daughter began having acne around age 11. It was painful and embarrassing for her. I steered her toward simple routines that she could keep up. She tried several and had to adjust over the years as products stopped working. We both agreed to not use oral medications or birth control pills. At 19 she has a simple and affordable skin care routine. She has beautiful skin and rarely wears makeup other than mascara and lip gloss.

    Here are two routines that worked particularly well:

    1. Zapzyt products: cleaner and gel, and a very mild, fragrance-free face lotion.

    2. Morning: 2.5-5% benzoyl peroxide cleanser (Neutropenia Clear Pore, Panoxyl, etc.), moisturizer with SPF 30-50 (only zinc or titanium dioxide sun block, not chemical sun screens)

    Evening: Wash with gentle non-medicated non-foaming cleanser (such as Cetaphil or Cerave).  Wait 15 to 20 minutes then apply adapalene 0.1% cream (retinoid) one pea-sized amount to acne prone areas of face. Start gradually and increase to nightly as tolerated over several weeks. lf skin is dry, follow with bland moisturizing cream (example Cetaphil, Cerave, Vanicream, Aveeno, Eucerin).

    Note that benzoyl peroxide products will bleach textiles (towels, bedding, clothes). Also, makeup primer and foundation can exacerbate the problem, as much as she may want to cover up the acne, encourage her to wear it less often.

    Let her know she's beautiful, acne and all, as she settles into the long haul of getting through adolescence. Maybe shift her focus on some part of her appearance that she's satisfied with (hair, nails, etc.)—don't compare, just say how nice her hair looks or spend a little more on shampoo or a good cut, for example. Over time, and with care, hopefully her skin will settle down.

    She doesn't need to use a lot of fancy products on her skin- but if she has acne she may need something.  I recommend checking out r/skincareaddiction on reddit- lots of info there about how to cut through the hype and find products with active ingredients (and little else) that work.  People have spent a lot of time reading the science out there- most of skincare has minimal effectiveness outside of a few active ingredients.  Thus you are paying generally for a brand "look", a scent, and fillers that aren't helping.  So your instincts are right but it sounds like your daughter may need more than water (she also has maybe more environmental pollution and face masks to deal with that we didn't have when teens).  The good news is that is doesn't sound like cystic acne, so the below should work well for most, although sensitivities/allergies etc.. mean YMMV.  

    Here is a basic, relatively inexpensive skincare routine that I use for my teens that works very well (I've spent a lot of time helping them with this because I remember the agony of youth myself).  Products are low/no scent and all can be bought at CVS, Walgreens, Target:

    Skincare for teen with low acne:

    Face wash: Cerave hydrating or foaming facial wash (both are good, just depends on level of dryness in skin)

    Red Stridex Pads or Salicylic acid 2% treatment (the Ordinary or other brand with no added scents and reusable cotton pads) (usually at night only)

    Moisturizer: Cerave daily moisturizing lotion.  Follow with sunblock!  (I don't have a real winner here to recommend).  

    For acne-prone teen/moderate acne:

    Face wash: Cerave Acne Foaming Cream Cleanser (contains benzoyl peroxide, which is highly effective on acne).  My daughter uses the contact method which has essentially eliminated her moderate acne and limits the drying of the product, which can be an issue.  To do this, wet the face, apply the wash and then leave on the skin for 10 minutes or so.  Rinse off.  Be careful, benzoyl peroxide can and will bleach clothing so have her not take shirts on and off or hug anyone while it's on her face.  

    Some people also add Salicylic acid once a day or every few days if tolerated or needed.  

    Moisturizer: Cerave daily moisturizing lotion, and sunblock in AM.  

    If those don't work there are ways to bump up, get a leave-on benzoyl peroxide product, etc... And there is clinical evidence for the effectiveness of Differin.  But at that point maybe consult a dermatologist.  Good luck to you and your daughter- it can take awhile to find the right routine but it doesn't have to be complicated or expensive, I promise!

    I also have "mediterranean" skin, meaning that in my 50s I have no wrinkles and still get the occasional zit. I developed acne in my 30s when I decided I wanted to "go natural" and stopped taking birth control pills. My skin got so bad that I not only very quickly went back on birth control pills, but discovered ProActiv which I use to this day. To get the acne under control, use their basic three step system. Once my skin had settled down I found I could use just the cleanser, step 1. I use it in the shower because it does bleach everything if not rinsed off completely (benzoyl peroxide will bleach towels, sheets and clothes). But it works. My son, of course, will not use it for his teen acne, but clindamycin get seems to be working for him. Best of luck!

    Has your daughter considered looking at her diet as a possible cause (or cure) for the acne? The daughter of a friend of mine had terrible acne and ended up doing a bunch of research into the microbiome -- and her skin improved quite a bit once she switched her diet. (I know this partly because she wrote a phenomenal college essay about the experience, which she shared with us recently... So if nothing else maybe this ordeal will provide your daughter with good materials for her college entrance applications?!) I can't recommend a specific practitioner but you might look for a naturopath instead of or in addition to a good dermatologist -- they take a much more holistic approach to medicine. When my son was small he had terrible excema which ended up being caused by food sensitivities -- discovered and fully treated with the help of a naturopath (in Vancouver). Skin outbreaks are often symptoms of systemic issues.

    Good luck!

    I'm unclear why the resistance to medication is. If her acne is hormonal (including a genetic predisposition) than all of the creams and washes in the world aren't going to help. My teens got my family's genes for acne and both had it, pretty badly. They started washes & OTC creams and then saw a dermatologist and went on topical medication. They did medication--starting low scale--and tried that for 18-24 months. They still had pretty bad acne, the kind that was going to pit and scar. After trying all the other options, both decided on acutane and it was a game-changer. I'm sorry we didn't make that option available to them earlier but I was hesitant. Acne--and all that comes with it re: self-image, social life, scarring, etc.--is more than just a skin care issue. I'm in my 50s and can still remember the psychological cost of it. Unlike back in the 80s, dermatologists don't put kids on antibiotics for 5 years (hello!) anymore. Serious acne is a medical condition and there are treatments for it. Jason Fung, MD in Oakland has been a terrific partner to my kids in their acne treatment. Good luck.

    Have her try zinc oxide on her face before she goes to bed at night.  The white sunblock that lifeguards use or even the diaper rash cream.  

    I’ve dealt with acne for almost 40 years, starting at a young age. I also didn’t want to use prescription treatments. What I finally found to work, and which my adolescent kid also uses now, is a really simple routine of California Baby products. We wash our faces with the tea tree body wash (you can also use it on hair and body). And then just apply their all sensitive (fragrance free) body lotion afterward. These two products have finally cleared up my skin, and they keep my kid’s breakouts to a minimum. Pipette is a good sunblock for not causing breakouts; if I’m putting sunblock on, I go really light with the lotion first, skipping the oilier areas since the sunblock will add some moisture. 
     

    We order the California Baby products from their website. Target has the Pipette online. 

    Other things that make a big difference are changing pillowcases more often (they absorb oil from skin and hair), and being careful of not applying a lot of hair product that can clog pores. Using a heavy conditioner can cause breakouts, too. Everything from the hair can migrate down onto the face. It’s also important not to pick at the skin or touch it with unwashed hands. 
     

    For us, the solution ended up being low-tech, and just paying attention to little things. I hope this is helpful!

    She needs acutane. Your reluctance to treat it may scar your daughter in more ways than just literally. My husband was scared psychologically by his acne so when our daughter began to get pretty bad acne at 12 first we tried antibiotics, topical stuff, facials for about 6 mos without significant improvement. Accutane was a miracle. The AWFUL dried lips were worth it to her- after 4 months her skinned GLOWED! She used it again her senior year of high school (age 17) for only 3 months this time and her skin still is acne free aged 22.

    I haven't stopped breaking out since I was 11.  Decades later, it's better, of course, but facial scars never went away.  Nor did the feeling of ugliness.  Your daughter is not me and may not have such strong feelings about her complexion (I certainly hope she doesn't!)  But if Accutane had existed in the late '60s, I would have taken it in a heartbeat.

    I'm in my 30's and just started accutane. I wish I had done it as a teenager and saved myself 20 years of skin stress, scarring, and god knows how much $$$$ on useless products. People will advise you to do all sorts of stuff (diet changes, "organic" products, facials, lasers, colored lights) but if your daughter really has acne prone skin, it is not going to make a difference. Retinoids will. If accutane seems overkill, maybe try tretinoin? It can make things worse before they get better, but you will see results. 

    If a teen is concerned about acne, I say take that concern seriously and help them deal with it. It can really impact self-esteem in the long-term. (Obviously it the kid doesn’t mind, it’s not a problem!) This might be something like accutane but not necessarily. Going on a birth control pills (certain ones) helped my daughter because her acne was partly hormonal. She also has a skincare routine from her doctor that includes using certain cleansers and moisturizers as well as Differin at specific times (all sold at the drugstore). She also uses a prescription cream when pimples do pop up. This program keeps her acne in check but it wouldn’t work for everyone. She never had severe cystic acne, and that is more likely to require Accutane or at least retinol products. 

    Taking a break is a good idea I think- my daughter has a medicine cabinet full of products and I think it's overkill. I'm a cetaphil cleanser person, and have been trying to influence her that less is more. With skin, things get worse before they get better so it's not surprising to me that the break from all the products is producing breakouts. If she can hang in there for a little bit longer I think it will be worth it. Also- I didn't have this when I was younger by my daughter always breaks out before she gets her period. It's hard because masks make it all worse (I'm pro-mask- I've just noticed that when I wear them for a long time and it's hot my skin gets itchy). Is she taking omega fatty acids?

  • Dermatologist for Teen Acne

    Apr 4, 2022

    Looking for recommendations for a dermatologist for a teen with acne. 

    Ingrid Roseborough (office in Oakland & Lafayette) treated both of my kids with acutane.

    Dr. Camilla McCalmont (on Fairmont St in El Cerrito) is an excellent dermatologist that our whole family has been going to for years. She has successfully treated my daughter's acne with Spironolactone (Aldactone).

    Dr. Jason Fung & his team has been a great dermatologist for my teen sons.

  • Our son has severe acne and the medications keep getting ramped up by his dermatologist, but are not having much success (and I am becoming more and more uncomfortable with him having so many antibiotics in his system over a long period of time). I have heard of people having food sensitivities-are there reliable tests for these? Dropping different foods one at a time is difficult at this point given everything else going on. We are on a long wait list for an excellent acne specialist, and that will be happening, so recommendations for people are not as useful at this point. Thanks!!

    My son also suffered from terrible acne and there were two food related changes that brought it under control. The first was to remove dairy products from his diet, which was tough because he loves ice cream and cheese. However, the change in his skin was striking. We also eliminated foods with iodine and in particular, a multi vitamin that contained iodine. If your son takes a multi vitamin, it is a good idea to check it to see if it has iodine, which is  a big trigger for acne. With those two changes and a nightly routine with OTC products, his skin stays relatively clear with occasional light break outs. Best of luck to you. 

    Antibiotics did nothing for my kiddo's acne. We finally decided (with much trepidation) to do Accutane. It was a complete success. We know lots of kids who found great relief & success with Accutane with no side effects. I was very nervous, but it was a game-changer. Sorry if this answer is off-topic, but I know how terrible acne is!

    We struggled with this for our son. We did not want to give him harsh meds for his acne and had been seeking alternatives. Luckily, we found an acne person in Oakland and the foods to reduce/avoid: soy, dairy - milk and cheese, canola oil, shellfish, seaweed/kelp, peanuts/peanut butter and Iodized salt. We have seen a great response to cutting these out. Peanut butter was the most difficult for my son, however, he does eat it every once in awhile. Pizza with cheese is also difficult.  I know that I couldn't live without these two foods!  

    I was in the same situation from age 13 and was given constant antibiotics which never helped the acne at all but probably did damage my immune system. In my early 20’s (STILL with cystic acne) I was given a brand new drug—Accutane. This came with a million warnings because apparently there are terrible birth defects if you take it while pregnant. I  was put on birth control pills (which was fine with me as I would have done ANYTHING at this point that offered me hope.) I took it for 3 months and it cleared my skin up perfectly, like 100% and the acne never returned. It was truly miraculous. You can’t imagine how life-changing this was if you haven’t had this particular type of acne  

    I understand you’re asking about food allergies but I would urge you, if that doesn’t work out, to talk to a dermatologist about Accutane rather than antibiotics.

    My daughter had wonderful results after seeing Acne Specialists of Oakland On Piedmont Ave.

    she too had been on antibiotics for longer than I liked. Their approach covers diet, lifestyle which with teens can interact a lot, but on the diet front cutting out dairy was a big start.

    She really sees a difference after she eats big dairy items (ice cream is the biggest culprit) -  a few days later and like clockwork there’s another breakout. 

    They also recommended cutting out/back on nuts and a few other things I can’t recall. 

    Hope that’s helpful. The diet changes were less painful than she thought and not draconian. And the results are a great motivator.

    good luck!

    If teen is motivated, a whole 30 takes about 40 days. 30 days of clean eating with no sugar, dairy, wheat, legumes etc. Then you reintroduce items 1 at a time and gauge the reaction. So you don't eliminate one by one, but all at once.

    I know of many teens whose acne completely cleared up when they stopped eating dairy.

    Hello, 

    My son also suffered from Cystic acne.  Our derm. suggested he stay away from skim and low-fat milk products in conjunction with other topical treatments. He was consistent in his routine, but it really didn't get us anywhere. Like many others have indicated, we did Accutane.  We had tons of trepidation, but he had no side effects except severe dryness. After abt. 6 mos., he was clear and has remained so to this day.  I do recommend you investigate. 

    I second the poster mentioning Accutane. We were somewhat nervous about the treatment for our teenage son. The outcome was amazing, with absolutely no side effects in our case. You might want to look into it.

  • Teenage acne

    Jul 1, 2019

    Looking for advice and recommendations for my 14 yo daughter with severe acne. OTC treatments have not worked. I wonder if I should take her to a dermatologist or an acne treatment center. Any great experiences with doctors or treatments that you can recommend are much appreciated. We are in the Albany/El Cerrito/Berkeley area, but willing to travel farther if necessary. 

    Your daughter's pediatrician should be able to recommend a dermatologist. My daughter is a little older and has been very diligent about her skin care, many of her friends who had bad/severe acne admitted to not putting in the time it takes to keep it under control. Neutrogena and Clean and Clear products worked for washing, and hydrating, and light moisturizing twice a day, carry skin wipes to use during the day; do this in addition to topical treatments. A lot of it may be hormonal, that just takes time. Good luck.

    Dr Curtis Raskin is great. He may be a little far from you as he’s located in Concord but he’s one of the few dermatologists that don’t push any products and focuses on the issue. 

    Also, I do recommend seeing a dr if all other OTC options aren’t working. My mom took me when my acne got really bad and only the Rx stuff worked. 

    Take her to a dermatologist. I highly recommend Dr. Joseph Chao in Berkeley. He is young and personable and my daughter loves her clear skin.

    Acne is complicated - there are many types and it can take a while to figure out the right treatment for your child. Personally I think it’s totally worth seeing a dermatologist - our ins covered it. No OTC drugs worked for my son - who BTW is a very healthy eating athlete. Acne is bacteria and it also can have a genetic link, even if you and your husband didn’t get it as kids (I and mine did not). Our pediatrician recommended Dr Icecreamwala in Berkeley (real name!) and she put him on a prescription cream that started working in about 2 weeks. His skin looks a ton better. As soon as summer and heavy sun exposure is behind us, he may start retin A - if this drug doesn’t clear his skin completely. She’s board certified in pediatric dermatology and says it’s safe and very effective. Good luck!

    I'm sorry your daughter is suffering from acne. Aside from being physically painful, acne can be emotionally and socially painful as well.

    My daughter also has suffered from severe acne, beginning around age 11. She is now almost 17 and has beautiful skin; she works hard to keep it that way. At the young age her acne started, I didn't want her to be on medication for it. We tried a number of approaches over the course of a year or more. What ended up working was Zapzytz (https://zapzyt.com) very simple, pure products that I found through a search on EWG's Skin Deep website (https://www.ewg.org/skindeep/?URI=%2Findex.php). Zapzytz is available through Amazon, and sometimes at Walgreen. At the beginning, I worked with her morning and night to properly care for her skin. She started seeing improvement within several days, and consistent results over the course of a month or so. As I began stepping away, she saw the impact when she didn't keep up the care routines that worked. It motivated her to stick with it.

    As my daughter got older and began wearing makeup more regularly, we again went to EWG to research products. She's settled on Glossier (https://www.glossier.com) and Milk Makeup (https://www.milkmakeup.com) products which are popular with the young "in" crowd, look more natural than most makeup, and don't trigger her acne.

    One additional note: acne products with benzoyl peroxide bleach fabrics. Consider using at night and switching to white bedding for these acne-prone years.

    I highly recommend Shannon at Studio Abasi in Berkeley. She has her own products made locally and if you use them according to her directions they work. No pills involved. Our son had severe acne and he went to her place for several facials and used the products daily. He cleared up within a few weeks. He continues to use the products on a daily basis and I'd say he's 90% better. He's not perfect because he eats dairy and sometimes forgets. He's 16. 

    As an adult, who has suffered from acne my whole life, I recommend seeing a dermatologist. If it's severe acne, nothing else will work. I have tried everything. Have your daughter bring in what she is currently using to treat her acne. The dermatologist might give your daughter a topical treatments first, but if it doesn't work, keep going back. Dermatologist have a lot of options. I recommend Dr. Julia Graves 510-452-0060

     A dermatologist can definitely help.  Both my teens see Dr. Irvin Epstein, Jr. in Oakland.  Busy office and there is often a wait but he’s really good.

    Both of my daughters see Dr. David MacGregor (or his physician assistants Leslie Bowler and Christina Tucker). My oldest has severe, cystic acne and the youngest has moderate acne. Within two months of following their "regime", they both have beautiful skin. Some time between 13 and 15, hormones really kick in and you often need medication to get things under control. Don't be surprised if they recommend a topical antibiotic, Retin A and birth control pills. Having clear skin is important for a person's self esteem. Good luck!  http://450derm.com/

    You probably don’t need a dermatologist, her pediatrician will be able to prescribe something. Teenage acne is a very common problem. Nothing works 100% (except time), my son had some improvement using  Differin which his regular Dr. prescribed. There are also oral meds her doctor may recommended. Vigilant washing morning and night with Clean and Clear also helped a lot. 

    Our son goes to Dr. Dunn at All Skin Dermatology in Berkeley. We love her. She is patient and listens well. Highly recommend her practice. 

    ACUTANE, ACUTANE, ACUTANE! Run, don't walk, to the dermatologist. I like all the docs I've met at our dermatologists office- Ingrid Rosebourough & Leslie Plotke. Offices in Lafayette and downtown Oakland. Both of my kids and my niece have used this medication which is a miracle drug. It is a hassle- a blood test and a doctor visit and an online "quiz" every month. The hassle is because If you were to get pregnant while taking this medication, the fetus would have serious malformations. The side effects of the medication (extremely chapped lips) are a hassle and can be unsightly. My daughter started this the summer between 7th and 8th grade. After 5 months, my daughters face was glowing and smooth and soft and acne free. Five years later she had another flair up of acne and took it again- this time for only 3 months. I cannot recommend it enough. My husband has been literally and emotionally scarred from teen age acne and impressed upon me how urgent it was to address acne when our kids acne became bad. Good luck.

    I would take her to a dermatologist right away. Acne is a miserable condition to live through. I had scarring acne in my twenties, eventually taking Accutane after oral antibiotics failed. When my 15-year-old son's acne got bad, I took him to UCSF pediatric dermatology. I wanted to go directly to Accutane, given my experience, but the doctors convinced me to have him try oral antibiotics, benzoil peroxide and tretinoin for four months first. To my surprise, his acne completely cleared up. The doctors just took him off the antibiotics, keeping him on the topical medicines. They will re-evaluate if the acne comes back. One of the things I appreciate most about the UCSF doctors is how serious they are about preventing scarring.

  • We're looking for someone, an esthetician maybe, who can consult with our teenage girl - despite a clean diet, good exercise and a pretty good skin care regimen (washing 2x day and applying acne lotion), she has bad hormonal breakouts in her t-zone, and her hair, despite expensive haircuts/detanglers/etc is super frizzy all the time.

    She currently uses good products (dermologica, and EWG certified products) and we prefer someone who would also follow that practice of more natural solutions. Someone has also suggested a multi-vitamin to help teen and hair. 

    TIA if you know of anyone who could consult and suggest products to help!

    It sounds like your daughter is setting herself up on a path for a lifetime of healthy skin and hair.

    I do not have an esthetician to recommend - my daughter tried one in Palo Alto years ago and hated the experience so much did not want to return.  The location and practitioner were very good, but my daughter found the experience painful (which extractions are) and did not like being red and puffy for a bit afterward (which is to be expected when treating acne).  She was also uncomfortable in general having someone touching her face for so long (even though she asked for the facial).

    However, the experience did encourage her to try a little harder herself to find products that work for her and rigorously maintain the routine. At 16, she has beautiful, healthy skin and hair.  She found good results using ZapZyts products which are well rated on EWG, but can be hard to find (try online).  For hair, she follows the Curly Girl method and recommended products. If your daughter's hair gets super frizzy, this method will likely work, regardless of whether she has waves, tight curls, or anything in between.  

    With both, less is more which is great for busy teens.  Good luck.

    Rise (pronounced Risa) Gross is amazing, especially with acne. She was explaining why all the over the counter stuff doesn't work. I don't remember why, I just know the results were great. I don't know if she helps with hair though. She owns Trio Skin Care in Concord. 925-609-8746 trioskincare.com

  • Hello, I'm looking for a good dermatologist for my 13 (almost 14) year old daughter who has fairly severe acne. We live in San Francisco so SF would be preferable but we would travel to the East Bay for the right person. Ideally I'd like someone who will not go full blast with medication. I prefer more holistic approaches. That said, she may require medication and I'm definitely open to it so I do want someone who can assess her needs realistically. Thank you for any and all recommendations!

    Hello -- I don't have the name of a good dermatologist, but I'd nevertheless like to offer two pieces of advice:

    (1) We adopted my cousin's granddaughter when she was 12 years old.  Her mother had bad acne starting when she was sixteen (it lasted through her thirties), and I was determined that Casey not suffer the same fate (to which she was genetically predetermined).  So from the time Casey moved in I had her using the Clinique soap + Clinique Clarifying lotion every night, without fail, and Clinique soap every morning.  When Casey hit age 16, I became especially vigilant about warning her not to touch her face with her hands unless they had just been washed.

    As you now, acne is caused by hormones + oily skin. Skin builds up its own oils, or you can apply more there with your oily fingers.  Keeping the skin absolutely clear, morning and night, is paramount.  If my child had acne, I would have her use soup + clarifying lotion three times a day.

    RESULT: Casey is now nearly 19, and has had beautiful, clear skin throughout her adolescence.  On the *rare* occasions when she did get a pimple (on one occasion she got three at a time), we analyzed her behavior, and it had always been a combination of eating chocolate and being lax on her skin care. 

    (2)  My own experience.  I didn't have myself as a mother, and had terrible acne when I was your daughter's age, on my back as well as forehead and neck. After avoiding the "drug solution" for six months with no results, the dermatologist finally gave me a combination of ultraviolet light treatments and medication.  That was what finally did the trick, and by the time I was 15, my acne was mostly behind me, except for the occasional pimple.

    Sometimes drugs are necessary, and this may indeed be the case for your daughter.  I was not harmed by mine.

    Hi

    We are East Bay Kaiser, so we can't really give you a Dr. recommendation, but my son progressed from topical to Accutane, which I had grave reservations about.  He is doing great. He's down to his last month of medication, and his skin is as clear as can be.  He suffered no mental side effects at all, but a lot of dryness. I just wanted to re-assure you if they talk Accutane. 

    My 14 year old daughter with moderate but persistent acne went to Studio Abasi in Berkeley for facial treatments last year and now has very clear skin.  She had complex acne (multiple kinds) but her skin started to improve after several treatments, and cleared entirely after several months.  We avoided medication which made us both happy.  She went regularly for several months, but now just has an appointment perhaps every 2 months.  She uses their facial products, which are expensive, but a little goes a long way and they are not more expensive than what we were purchasing elsewhere.  The aestheticians work with dietary factors and are very knowledgable.  (My daughter eliminated dairy and reduced her processed sugar intake which has helped enormously.)  One major drawback (in addition to cost):  the treatments are quite painful, especially in the beginning, so your child has to be willing to tolerate that.  My daughter was unhappy enough with her skin that it felt worthwhile for her, and the treatments get progressively less painful.  If Berkeley is too far to travel, they may be able to recommend a place in SF.  My daughter is thrilled with her skin, and actually eats much healthier as a result of her treatment.

    Hello, First, I'm sorry that your daughter is experiencing acne.  My 15-year-old daughter does as well and it's more than a skin health and cosmetic issue, it goes to the heart of self-confidence and self-esteem, particularly at this age.

    Second, I'm sorry I do not have a dermatologist to recommend.  However, I would like to share with you what is working for my daughter.  Her acne started around age 11 and quickly became physically painful as well as embarrassing for her.  Given her young age, I tried many approaches in an effort to avoid medication.  What ended up working for her is a product called "ZapZyt".  I used to get it at Walgreen, but now get it on Amazon.  It's highly rated by EWG Skin Deep if you follow their research on least toxic products.  She uses the wash 2x/day, the scrub every other day, and the treatment gel every night.  Caution: the treatment gel will bleach most fabrics.  We changed my daughter's bedding to all white.  It's important to use consistently to keep the acne under control.  Now that My daughter is older and wearing make-up, she also uses Neutrogena Skin Clearing Complexion Perfector with salicylic acid during the day as well.  The products with salicylic acid and benzoyl peroxide can be very drying.  When needed, she uses the Neutrogena Oil-Free Acne Moisturizer.  If you choose to try these products, I suggest you help her with them, including applying the treatment gel for her, the first few times she uses them.  It's important to use enough, but not too much, and keep out of the eyes and mouth.

    One last thing to mention: before her 8th grade graduation, I took my daughter for a facial by a person well trained and experienced in dealing with acne (SkinSpirit in Palo Alto - we live on the Peninsula).  While the aesthetician did a fantastic job extracting pimples and clearing blackheads, my sensitive daughter hated the experience.  Her skin was red and sore for a day or two (an acne facial is somewhat painful, not pleasant), but much clearer after that.  If your daughter could tolerate the experience, I suggest a good facial to kick start getting the acne under control and occasionally thereafter for maintenance.

    Good luck to you both.  I hope you find a solution that works well for your daughter.

    Hi - I know you are looking for SF if possible but check out Acne Specialists of Oakland website - see link below.  My son had terrible acne when is was 15/16.  He was using the strongest facial washes and spot treatments we could purchase over the counter. These of course dried his skin out, and the acne continued only slightly diminished.  Acne Specialists of Oakland stopped this bad cycle and got him to clear skin in about 4 months.  They did a full eval for him, and while they did 3-4 acne facials for him and gave him gentler face wash etc, the thing that helped more than anything else was the diet changes they suggested.  It was pretty dramatic.  Once my son stopped eating dairy, his skin started to clear up.  So we stopped the appointments as he didn't need them.  He is now 21 and enjoys clear skin unless he lapses and eats a cheese pizza or something like that and then he gets a bad episode of blemishes. Good luck. 

    http://www.oaklandacne.com/

    I highly recommend Amy Earnest in Oakland/Piedmont area. She is an aesthetician and specializes in problem skin. My daughter has very sensitive skin and the products the dermatologist prescribed were too harsh. Amy takes a wholistic approach: looking at diet, makeup, hair products, sunscreen, etc. Her clients receive "treatments" bi-weekly in the beginning and she fine-tunes the skin regime depending on how the results are progressing. The products she uses are not that expensive at all and she also carries a line of makeup. She has weekend appointments too. We have been very happy with the results! https://www.amyearnestacne.com 

    Both of my daughters see Dr. David MacGregor (or his physician assistants Leslie Bowler and Christina Tucker). My oldest has severe, cystic acne and the youngest has moderate acne. Within two months of following their "regime", they both have beautiful skin. Some time between 13 and 15, hormones really kick in and you often need medication to get things under control. Don't be surprised if they recommend a topical antibiotic, Retin A and birth control pills. Having clear skin is important for a person's self esteem. Good luck!  http://450derm.com/

    Highly highly recommend these wonderful ladies! http://www.oaklandacne.com/

    They have a line of gentle products and will look at lifestyle, products, food, etc. Monthly facials with extractions may help greatly too. As someone who suffered with acne and became depressed and more introverted, I applaud you for helping your daughter through. All the best!

    I second the shout out for Studio Abasi. Cleared up my son's SEVERE acne after bimonthly facials and using their products religiously. No medication required. She will need to cut out dairy and commit to using their products and coming in for the facials. They are about $85 if I recall. 

    Hi- Dr. William Ting in San Ramon is fantastic-highly recommend. Biz called California Dermatology. He's very flexible in how he works with teens. That said, my 16 year old was put on doxycycline (50 mg) and that's all he does (boys!) and his skin is 80% better with that alone so you might consider. I think it's really important to make significant progress so that you can minimize long term scarring.

    stephanie

    My teen had pretty bad acne and his pediatrician recommended starting with Benzoyl Peroxide 5% which you can get over the counter or on Amazon for practically nothing. But our main problem was getting him to apply it regularly. I can't overstate how much that played in to his acne - he really blew it off and was not committed at all to a regular regimen and did not respond to nagging. But the turning point was the girlfriend. This is probably not relevant for teen girls but I wanted to throw it out there for the parents of teen boys. Suddenly he was interested in showering every day, applying the acne cream religiously, and just generally paying attention to overall hygiene.  His acne cleared up dramatically!  This cream does dry out the skin, so I got him some "Moisturizer for Men" from Clinique which works well. You can also dial it back from 5% to 2.5% on the Benzoyl Peroxide which is what he's using now. I hope this is useful! 

  • Hello:  My son has developed acne on his back and shoulders over the last few months.  His face fares better, but he has breakouts (which I think is normal for a growing teen). We have tried OTC remedies, and some natural ones (purchased at Whole Foods). Nothing seems to be working. I would like to avoid the regimen of antibiotics/other serious RX that my son's pediatrician recommended.  I am looking for recs for someone in the healing arts who can address this with natural remedies  (anyone in the entire Bay Area, North Bay, East Bay, SF) . And I am seeking advice from a parent who has gone through this with their child. I am afraid there might be permanent scarring on his shoulders/back.

    Thank you!

    It's not all natural, but Acne Specialists of Oakland (http://www.oaklandacne.com/) use a regimen that doesn't require antibiotics. They use a mixture of dietary/lifestyle interventions and products to help. After years of trying all natural approaches and products without success, this has been a blessing for my family. I’d also look into naturopaths.  Hope this helps!

    I found that when I cut out Gluten my skin cleared up! Sometimes it's something they are consuming. Try cutting out Gluten for two weeks and see if it helps! 

    As someone who suffered tremendously, I recommend going directly to Accutane. 

    Hi Marghi - sorry your son is going through this. Cosmetic problems are hard for all of us but particularly difficult for teens.This is not PC to say but save your money. Herbal/ "natural" remedies don't work. An old, excellent dermatologist told me this years ago, eliminate all dairy from diet....ALL....it's really hard to do this with anyone, particularly a growing teen but if he is the rare patient who can do it - it works. No milk, no cream, no ice cream, no cheese which means no pizza or he has to order pizza without cheese, etc. 

    Good luck to you and your son.

    My sister has struggled with acne issues for over 20 years. She eventually opted to go on medication and it's changed her life! She no longer lives in fear of the next outbreak. Acne has had a serious negative impact on my sister, from her self esteem and self image and her lifestyle/social life. Acne has impacted so many of her choices over the years and we both try to imagine what our lives would have been like without skin issues. My sister has both emotional and physical scars which she has spent time and money trying to improve over the years. I know it seems extreme to medicate, but honestly, adolescence is hard enough even for those blessed with minor skin issues. I would recommend doing whatever it takes to help him remedy this - even if it means medication. Good luck to both of you.

    I feel for your son. If it's the regular kind of acne that most teenagers get, I would suggest you try all the interventions every one here has suggested. If, on the other hand, he has the kind of acne that is the painful, cystic kind (like I did as a teenager) I would say skip the natural remedies and proceed directly to Accutane. It is the only thing that helped me. I tried every treatment imaginable until (at age 20 STILL with a terrible problem) I took Accutane. It can be hard on your body going through it for sure, but it was miraculous. 

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Minocycline for acne for 14yo?

July 2015

My 14 year old son has been prescribed minocycline (100 mg twice a day) for his moderate acne. Also prescribed Retin A topically. The minocycline potential side effects range from annoying to horrific, and of course I have gotten sucked into internet hell, so now I'm extremely hesitant to let him start the antibiotic. If anyone has direct experience with their kid taking this drug, I would love to hear how it went, both from a parent and a kid perspective. My son is really hating his pimples and we want to help him but need some real-life info first. I have no qualms about the Retin A and am hoping that will help significantly, but understand the antibiotic has a completely different mechanism of action to eradicate acne. Thanks for any wisdom. Mom


Both of my teens have had great results using Face Reality in San Leandro. This clinic treats acne without any drugs and will teach your teen how to keep their skin clear forever. Their website explains their approach and why you should not use antibiotics or Retin A (or worse) to treat acne.

They use benzoyl peroxide, much like Proactive, but it is combined with facials, including extractions, and a whole skin care regimen and education. Even teen boys are able to follow it! My son referred several of his friends, and they are all thrilled with the results

I know it's tempting, especially for teens who can certainly be a little lazy, to want to fix the problem with a pill or a cream. But there are healthier, safer, and more effective ways to treat acne. Clear skin mama


My son (also 14) had a reaction to minocycline -- hives. It was pretty nasty & took Prednisone to get rid of it. However, since that didn't work out, we have now gone to even stronger stuff with worse potential side effects (Accutane). So far so good, but I would try the antibiotic & just stay alert for side effects. Debbie


I took tetracycline as a kid (essentially the same thing) and it was completely useless for controlling acne but it did turn my teeth a nice shade if yellow (uggh). Just go straight to accutane and knock it out. I was in my late 20s by the time i could get that and it took two go rounds but was the only thing that helped at all. I still have acne as an older adult but can keep it mostly under control with Topicals.

No sense it prolonging the agony of acne, just take care of it now. Accutane is powerful stuff but it works and aside from dry lips, etc. no issues for me. Have had two perfect kids since then so not to worry. ?? Another acne sufferer


My 14-year-old son was on Minocycline for his acne last year for a few months, was off it again, and recently went back on for a nodular flareup (along with topicals). He's had absolutely no side effects and it definitely helped, and helped to avoid Accutane. I expect him to be off again after a couple of months. Walnut Creek mom


My teen son is washing his face twice a day with baking soda. Whenever he has big-red pimples, he applied little hydrogen peroxide or hydrocortisone cream on the pimples. When his skin gets a little dry in that area, he uses Aveeno Baby Eczema Therapy cream or just baby lotion. Hope this helps! mom


Dermatologist recommending Accutane for 11-year-old

March 2011

After trying antibiotics and retin-A cream for 4 months, with very little result, the dermatologist has just recommended accutane for my 11 y.o daughter who is in 6th grade. I have called our Family Physician to discuss this with him before we begin treatment (Accutane should be starting in May).

Can anyone share their recent experiences with this drug, especially using it at such a young age? Did it work? About how long did it take? Side effect experiences? (Note I did experience untreatable acne as a teen-ager, her dad did not. Her older brother did, but not as much)

Thank you. J.


I took Accutane at exactly your daughter's age: 11 yo (in 1991! sheesh). It worked miracles for me, but I did require further courses of treatment later. From what I recall, my acne was worse for the first 2-3 weeks, and then instantaneously gone. You can request a cortisone/prednizone treatment for the first couple weeks she's on Accutane to deal with the inital increase in breakouts. The dermatologists always told me it was a necessary part of the process to clear the pores - the prednizone pills just helped minimize the cystic swelling.

I finished a six-month course of treatment, and then I had no further breakouts at all until I was 14 or 15. For the next two years, breakouts were minor, and contained with Retin-A and makeup. My cystic acne was back when I was 17, so I did another round of treatment then. One more at age 24, at a lesser dosage. That's held for 6 years (and puberty MUST be over by now, right?), so I hope it was the last. Side effects during the treatment for me included more vulnerability to sunburns and extremely dry, chapped lips. Nothing worked on my lips besides Vaseline & Carmex, so stock up.

There's no lingering side effects. I didn't experience any depression or mood swings beyond what a typical pre-teen goes through. I do have some acne scarring from my teenage years. My husband assures me that it is indistinguishable from my freckles, but I can see it. It would probably be much worse had I not done the Accutane.

Not sure if they still do this since it's been 20 years, but when I was 11, the drug was experimental and my dermatologist tried to insist that I take the monthly preganacy test required of users. (severe, debilitating birth defects are the major side effect if one is to become pregnant while taking Accutane) No way, no how, my mother said. After a couple moths of arguing, I got a special dispensation from pregnancy tests, but still did the monthly blood panels. After the first month, it was no big deal. I'm a champ at giving blood now.

I'm always the one person writing in to say this, but for me, its true: Accutane saved my self-esteem and social skills. Before taking it, I couldn't look anyone in the face, wouldn't go to the pool ever, had maybe two friends. After taking it, I left high school reasonably popular, confident, with an understanding that crippling self-esteem issues do not have to be forever. I know it sounds like a drug testimonial, but Accutane IS a giant pain in the ass and it IS worth every bit of the effort when nothing else works. been there


I would really read the side effects of accutane - here is one list http://www.acne.org/accutane-side-effects.html

How hard have you tried topicals?

ProActiv has been working for us, and it really helped to have its' inventor and her staff show us how to use it. Dr. Rodan is in Oakland: http://www.drrodan.com/

Yes it takes time to use it, but you could use a reward system. My daughter started in middle school and uses it still today, with no harsh side effects. She has used it at summer camp, traveling in Europe and on a 5 week wilderness retreat.

There are other systems that work too. accutane should be a last resort


My 16-year-old son has been taking Accutane (Claravis) for just 4 months now. He tried almost two years of Tetracycline which initially seemed to be working, then not at all. I was very reluctant to have him try the Claravis, but our dermatologist was very supportive. Apparently his acne is a pretty severe case; it's taken 4 months, double-dosing three nights a week to get over the horrible initial flare-up. He had to take a short, low-dose course of Prednisone to bring down the redness after the first 2 months. He now seems to be ''almost around the corner'' as well put by our doctor. None of these drugs has had any negative effect on him; he has a fasting blood draw once per month to keep watch on triglyceride and cholesterol levels, which are so far looking fine.

The only problems he's encountered are severe dryness of his lips, and some dryness also around the cuticles on his hands. This seems a small price to pay for the amazing improvement that is manifesting on his skin surface. I really think now that we waited too long to do this. I feel that a lot of what he was feeling about his appearance was just shoved under the rug, and that he was suffering a lot more than was visible to us, his parents. I say ''Go for it.'' This drug has been used in some form or another since around 1970 I believe. Teenage self-esteem is a hard thing to go without.

Here are a couple of websites you might want to look at:
http://www.aocd.org/skin/dermatologic_diseases/accutane.html
http://leda.law.harvard.edu/leda/data/472/Green.html

You are welcome to email me if you think I could help answer any questions about the process my son is going through. elaine


Experience with teens using Accutane for acne?

March 2010

My 16.5 year old son has had pretty bad acne for a couple of years. I have been very resistant to having him use Accutane because it seems like such a dangerous drug with so many potential side effects. He took antibiotics for 6 months about a year ago and that seemed to help some but not that noticeably. His acne is not outrageously bad but it really bothers him and he has been begging me to let him try Accutane.

Please let me know if you have experience with your teenager using this drug. Did it help? Did the teen experience side effects? We have not yet seen a dermatologist. Our pediatrician said he didn't think the drug was that dangerous. Thanks for your feedback. Worried Mom


I thought Accutane had been taken off the market. See http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601103=aRyzfbTsj3h8 I know a girl who was an athlete and it does something to joints or ligaments. She fell while running ALL the time. Read the article - the lawsuits are huge and serious, and Roche has lost them all. Peggy


Please see a dermatologist before trying Accutane. This is not something a pediatrician can handle. My 16 year old daughter has been dealing with acne for several years. Her acne is moderate and currently in control. What does she do? 1) washes her face twice a day with Proactive; 2) takes an antibiotic for 2 months and then takes a break until she feels it's getting out of control again; 3) applies a topical gel(Differin and another stronger than Differin)in the morning; 4) applies Proactive's face mask on blemishes at night and sleeps with it. Proactive recently came out with a clear mask you can wear during the day. Haven't tried it yet, but the regular mask reduces redness and helps blemishes heal. It's a rigorous routine but worth it in the end. Acne can damage a kid's self esteem and with work, it can be managed. Good luck. Fellow Acne Mom


Over the last decade, I have worked with about 10 adolescents who used Accutane and experienced moderate to severe depression, increases in aggressiveness and suicidal thoughts and feelings, with no prior history of these difficulties. These problems tended to lift fairly quickly (from a few days to a few weeks) after cessation of Accutane. Michael Y. Simon, MFT


Dear Worried Mom: My son begged me to used Accutane. His acne too, in my opinion, was not that bad, but he didn't want to go through High school with any acne. A dermatologist we saw advised us that it was okay, but I had severe misgivings. Luckily, we found a great treatment, not very well known. It is called levulan blue light treatment....a photosensitizing agent is applied to your child's skin, and they sit under the blue light lamp for about 30 minutes. They cannot go out in the sun for that day, so we did it on a saturday. Unfortunately, we had to pay out of pocket for this. In my opinion, I think dermatologists push accutane so much, because it is covered in most insurances. I think accutance should only be used for Severe acne, as a very last resort. It worked very well for my son. It didn't clear up every single drop of acne, but it worked well enough for him to stop begging us for accutance. If you have any more questions, feel free to contact me. Michele


My daughter's experience with Accutane was different than the other posters so I thought I'd give you the benefit of a different opinion. My daughter had serious acne starting in 6th grade. Her father and I both had acne as teens and residual physical scarring. After consistent treatment with a dermotologist, and using various antibiotics, which worked for a time and then stopped working, by 8th grade the dermotologist suggested Accutane. After two years of antibiotics and other topical agents, her acne was getting cystic. So, after consulting with her pediatrician, she started on Accutane. I was aware of the depression side affect so I watched carefully for it. She had blood work done monthly because Accutane can affect the liver. She was on Accutane for six months. No side effects, other than dry lips and flaky skin. It completely cleared her skin. Statistically, in 70% of patients the acne does not reoccur. Would do it again.


Our daughter used accutane, for over a year, from ages 12-13. We have very severe cystic acne in our family-- the kind that scars the face and back deeply-- and tried everything possible before we went this route. My daughter had no history of, or tendency toward depression, and those who take it must get their cholesterol checked every month (as well as take a pregnancy test). Our daughter's dermatologist never treated accutane lightly; we understood it was a serious yet necessary drug, in this case. This meant that our daughter needed to see the dermatologist every month for follow-up check-ups and if anything was amiss, they let us know (One month her cholesterol was high, and the dermatologist slowed her intake to every other day for a month. When it went back to normal, she resumed her regular daily dose until the trematment was over).

It did all it promised to do, although our daughter had to take two 5 month courses (instead of the usual one), because of the severity. A year later and all is well. We are so grateful for accutane (and I wish that it had been an option for me). Again- it should be taken only with medical supervision, but many people who dimiss it (or say, ''just wash your face; this will help'') may not understand what it means to truly have this kind of acne, and the miraculous effect accutane can have on it.

- a mom who would make the choice again


My son's acne was really affecting his self-esteem (he is 15). We tried dealing with it through his pediatrician, but it was months and months of trying creams that were doing nothing. Luckily, he had a skin irritation from swimming all summer that necessitated us seeing a dermatologist. Again, he went for months trying the creams again. Finally, the dermatologist offered him antibiotics. Several of the options were scary, but we chose the least scary one: Tetracycline. He's had wonderful results with this drug, with no side effects. I don't know what antibiotics you were using, but I urge you to take your son to a dermatologist. These doctors know what they are looking at; not so with a GP. Elaine


Before you go the Accutane route I would strongly recommend you check out Face Reality Acne and Skincare Clinic in San Leandro. My daughter (now 21) had always had relatively clear skin until spring 2006 when she developed major breakouts that started to scar her skin (and impact her self esteem.) High school is trying enough without the added stress of acne. We tried ProActive (which only worked for about 2 months) then I took her to a dermatologist who put her on an antibiotic and RetinA cream regime for 8 weeks that resulted in over drying her skin and clogging her pores. Next, the dermatologist recommended Accutane. I, too, wanted to research alternatives before going down this potentially dangerous path. My daughter's major concern was to get clear before she started college that fall.

From the initial phone call to the consultation, treatment and follow- up Face Reality Acne Clinic provided a professional and very personalized approach towards my daughter's acne problem. It took about three months for her to get clear, but she started showing significant improvement in the first few weeks. The program required an acne treatment ($75) every two weeks (I'm not sure if the price has changed) and the consistent use of several products every morning and evening. The cost of the products was reasonable ($120 for a 3-4 month supply.) As her skin adapted they needed to introduce another product here and there, but it was still very reasonable, but more importantly, it worked.

The Face Reality staff also encouraged communication between visits. If my daughter was concerned about how her skin was reacting or whether she was doing her routine properly, she felt comfortable enough to call. She was always able to speak to someone knowledgeable or get a prompt call back. They are professional, kind and completely approachable to teens, who can be super sensitive to their acne issues at this age.

My daughter has remained clear and still continues with her simple skincare routine. In 2007 my then 17 year-old son started going to the clinic. He, too, had great results and remains clear (99% of the time) despite a less than healthy diet and stress related to being a college sophomore. For more info you can visit their website http://www.facerealityacneclinic.com/ It's a great resource of information. Good luck! Relieved Acne Mom


Experience treating cystic acne?

Nov 2009

Has anyone had experience treating cystic acne?? My daughter has been diagnosed with it and it seems to be a difficult form of acne to treat. It sounds like each case is very individual. Am wondering what experiences people have had with it in terms of treatment, alternative therapies and/or nutrition? We are being told to treat it initially with antibiotics and then eventually accutane. Any recommendations, advice and/or I would just like to hear what others have been through. Also, we've found a dermatologist at Oakland Kaiser (Dr. Reisman) who we really like but if you have a referral to another dermatologist who has treated it successfully, I would appreciate hearing about it!


I started getting cystic acne in 1987 (age 13). I went through the usual antibiotics, they didn't help much. I did start Accutane in 1990 but had to stop 1 week in because it SEVERELY dried my skin (corners of mouth were cracking making eating painful). All along the dermatologists kept recommending to wash ALOT, and use alcohol and peroxide based cleansers. I wish I knew more at the time and had gone through with Accutane, even if it meant sitting around the house all summer as the temporary effect were miserable. People who did use Accutane had great results. I'm still susceptible to cystic acne today. Here are my observations from 22 years: 1. Need to reduce stress. Stress is a primary trigger. 2. Diet is second. Avoid lots of sugar. 3. Wash your hands with soap, not your face, to prevent transfer. Washing your face can be too drying. 4. Avoid greasy foods, it's getting it on your lips and face that is the issue, not the consumption zack


I suffered from cystic acne starting when I was 16 and getting really bad in my late 20s. When I was young, it was treated with antibiotics and topicals (because I only had one really bad cyst), but as I got older it just got worse and worse and antibiotics did nothing for me. I finally decided to go forward with accutane treatment when I was 29 and it worked wonders!! I actually wish I'd done it sooner so that I wouldn't have as many scars. Accutane is a serious drug with side effects like severe dry skin, constant chapped lips, and occasional headaches. But other than that I was really happy with my decision. Nothing else will cure this type of acne - nothing!

You have to go through a lot to get it now because some politician's son supposedly got depressed while on it and a bunch of teenage girls messed up and got pregnant. Don't believe the negative hype, though. Accutane seriously changed my life! I am now 33 and have beautiful skin other than some leftover scars. Jessica


Dr. Rudd in Berkeley (not part of Kaiser) is a brilliant guy for acne problems. But in tandem with medical care, may I suggest you have your daughter avoid all dairy for a week and see what happens? When I was a teen, especially, my skin would only get huge cystic spots when I ate a lot of dairy, and as soon as I stopped, my face would clear up fast. I would try that before accutane (which DOES work wonders, despite the concerns about depression, etc.). Good luck! Been there


I have problems with cystic acne that didn't arrive until my late twenties. It was really painful and hugely affected my quality of life. Differin (a less irritating form of Retin-A) has worked amazingly for me. It made my acne worse for the first 2 weeks as my dermatologist had warned me. However, after that, I have had a huge improvement. I also started out on oral antibiotics, but they upset my stomach and the alternatives were more expensive than I was willing to pay. I have a number of friends who swear by Accutane and say that it cured their acne long term. It wasn't an option for me since i wanted to get pregnant, but for a teenage girl, it will probably be fantastic. Kate


I've been down the dermatologist route with cystic acne. Generally, we start with topicals (retin-A, clindamyacin, and a couple others), move on to oral antibiotics, and then if that doesn't work, on to accutane. My advice is definitely do the accutane if they recommend it.

I'm sure you'll hear plenty of negative feedback on Accutane. You have to manage the side effects, and the extra testing each month is annoying. (Every month, they will want your daughter to do a blood test and a pregnancy test to make sure she's on track and of course, not pregnant.) But it was the only thing that worked for me. If your daughter is anything like I was as a teenager, you'll be noticing the acne affect her confidence, self-image, and friendships. It can be really crippling to face your peers if you're the only one with that kind of acne. Taking the accutane was the only thing that restored my ability to look people in the eye and feel somewhat confident about myself.

I did courses of accutane when I was 12, 17, and 27. It may not be a permanent fix for your daughter, especially depending on her age, but it helped me through 5 years of puberty, and then 10 years into adulthood before I had to take it again. I can't imagine where I would be if I'd had to deal with the acne all this time. Side effects for me included severaly dry skin, cracked lips, and being more thristy than usual. You have to wear sunscreen because sunburns can be bad. But all of that was worth it in my book.

I have an NP at Kaiser Oakland now: Claire Wing. I really like her because she talks to me like I'm an equal decision-maker in treating my skin. Most important though is that you have a dermatologist who is willing to make adjustments in treatment. Like you said, it is very individual. If Dr. Reisman sees your daughter fairly frequently and is willing to tinker with the medicines she is using to find the right combo, then he's a good fit. jessica


It took me almost 20 years to figure out that my cystic acne was the result of eating foods with a high iodine content. I eliminated all fish from my diet. Hard to do because sushi was my favorite food - but, it is also loaded with iodine; the fish, the kelp, the soy sauce. I made a list of *all foods* that are high in iodine and never eat them because if I do, the result is a breakout of cystic acne. It is a sacrifice, but the payoff is beautiful skin. Such a relief after YEARS of terrible acne. - finally, acne free.


I had /have cystic acne, with a severe occurenece as a teen and smaller recurrences during and after my pregnancies. One of my brothers also had severe case, and my father, even worse. I went through standard antibotics as a teen,and although my face has a few scars,it is mostly ok.But my back that is so severely scarred, I never wear anything with a low back or without sleeves(including bathing suits),even today.

When it was clear my daughter inherited the condition, we took her to the dermatologist, who after 6 months of entry-level options, put her on accutane at age 13. When she started treatment,she had already gotten 4 or 5 terrible cystic breakouts, ones that infect close to a square inch, deep under the skin's surface and are not only painful but definitely leave scars. Plus she had over 50 blackheads on her back (despite VERY careful attention to washing and topicals).I'm hear to tell you that accutane is a lifesaver. She went through two courses of it,which the dermatologist said was quite unusual, but she finished the treatment with a TOTALLY clear back. You have no idea how big it was for her to buy a dress with an open back for the 8th grade dance. Not only has it been a huge boost for her self confidence as a teen, but I know that avoiding lifelong scars will benefit her forever.

Some of the earlier posts suggest that washing one's face or certain dietary restrictions are somehow the key. Honestly,these people have no idea what it really means to carry this gene! Going on accutane should not be a casual decision, but one that should definitely be made and monitored by a doctor.... but severe, cystic acne is not the same thing as getting a few zits.(My son has had a bit of regular teen acne, which he has treated with topicals. It is NOT the same thing as cystic acne!!To suggest that washing up or removing dairy will take care of problem just doesn't understand the nature of the problem). Accutane is carefully regulated; not only did my daughter take a pregnancy test each month, but they also checked her cholesterol levels and adjusted intake levels when needed.

I truly believe that kids should not have to suffer from lifelong scars in today's world.If everything else is ok with your child medically speaking (and she doesn't have a predisposition toward depression),and she has a severe problem, then she should absolutely seek this treatment. - been there and relived it


Green, natural acne treatment?

Dec 2008

My young teen has mild acne but it is a source of some stress. Seeking effective treatments that are less toxic to her & the planet. The website doesn't seem to have anything recent but hopefully there are ideas out there. Thanks! teen girl's mom


http://www.keys-soap.com/ Keys soaps might be a solution. I like the island rx soap and the extra healing serum ( not sure of the name, little roll on bottle). I'm a former clairol/clearasil early 40s type who had her skin dried too much by proactive (even when just targeting the acne area). I can't guarantee this works for teen skin, but testimonials indicate it does. And the ingredients run toward rosemary and carrot seed oils in terms of 'toxicity.' They one an award for best non chemical sunscreen--a product I also like. happy with keys


The best esthetician that I know of in our area is Kathy Stephens. She only uses green, non toxic products and has worked wonders for both of my kids throughout their teen years. She's very gentle and gets great results. I always consult her (for both myself and my kids) instead of a dermatologist. She is in El Cerrito and her phone number is: 510-232-0641. Long Time Satisfied Client


I've had pretty good luck with Neem soap - Thera-Neem is my favorite. You can also take Neem internally. clearer every day


I don't know if it is green or not but my daughter has had great success at Face Reality in San Leandro. I am a big fan of their procedures and products. It is expensive because you pay for the visits and you buy their products. They look at your daughter's skin, do some extractions and change up to stronger products as the skin adjusts. It does get pricy,since the products change as the skin changes, but I feel it is so much better than the trade off of other options we tried before. And if I consider how much I spent on dr. visits,the lastest advertised or recommended acne products,antibiotics and Acutane which didn't work, or didn't work for very long, I wish I had just given Face Reality a try years ago. Not to mention that I have nagging worries about the Acutane. My daughter is away at college now and calls them when she needs product. She recently contacted them to get a stronger moisturizer since the cold climate is drying her skin too much. Her skin is looki! ng good with the continued use of their products. Check out their website. If you have any questions, I'll be happy to talk with you. cynthia


16-year-old wants to try Accutane

Oct 2008

My son is 16 and wants to try Accutane for his acne. His dermatologist thinks that it is okay to use. I am really concerned, but my son really wants his acne to clear up. He has been on the antibiotic minocycline and also using Retin-A for the past two months, and it is not really working well. I am interested in other parents experiences, worries and opinions about accutane, especially parents of boys. thanks. M


My son took Accutane when he was around 16 and it worked beautifully in clearing up his acne. My only regret was that he didn't start it sooner. I believe that his insurance required that he be on an antibiotic for one year before Accutane could be prescribed, and that was a long year. However, if he's already seeing a dermatologist, maybe that rule doesn't apply. To take Accutane, monthly blood samples are required so the doctor can keep make sure that there are no negative effects. Well worth it. Anonymous


ProActive works well for my daughter. Also Dr. Rodan is in Oakland and sees patients, I believe she has sold her interest in ProActive and has a new formulation. What is really great about Dr. Rodan is her specific instructions in using topicals. Generally when ProActive fails it comes back to ''user error'' for my daughter. Before you go up the ladder with pharmaceuticals please consider reviewing all possible details of self care. Also has your son ever been tested for allergies? Low level allergies can aggravate skin conditions. It is often not something the dermatologist will acknowledge or pursue. mom


My daughter did Accutane and had none of the mythic side effects. She had to be (even more) careful about the sun, but the results were almost life changing. I grew up with a brother who battled acne well into his late 20s when the only treatment was tetracycline, and that wasn't very effective.

If my son had severe acne and wanted to use Accutane & the Dermatologist recommended it or was willing to prescribe it I would go for it, with or without insurance paying for it. I know kids who have used it for more mild acne, and I think that was a bit much.

Why not be known for some other feature?


I don't have a son, but my daughter had to use Accutane to get rid of persistent acne that nothing else worked on.

It is even more odious for girls as there is the whole pregnancy/birth control element to deal with monthly, but it was worth it. She took the Accutane for 6 to 7 months and her skin is perfect.

You do need to be on the lookout for some of the emotional issues that can be side effects, but I think most people take it and do fine.

If nothing else is working, I would definitely try it. There's nothing else like it; it works for the vast majority of people taking it, and it will eliminate the issue. anonymous


Please consider a high doses/day of Pantothenic Acid (Vitamin B5)-- a very popular remedy for acne in Europe. Not a multi B vitamin but strait on B5 only. As I understand it, your body only uses what it needs and discards the rest so you can't take too much. It acts as a oil production blocker -- the kind that clogs pours (sp?) on your face -- thereby eliminating many of the infected pours (pimples). For my kids, I started with 500 mg in the am and one in the pm. After 2 weeks one child's face started clearing; after 2 weeks with the second child I've had to go up to 1000mg in the am and 1000mg in the pm for longer. The first child only takes it now if she really starts breaking out (she used to cover her cheeks with her hands all the time -- she felt that ugly! It broke my heart). She also uses products from Benefit in between. The second child has always have more oily skin and hair, so I think she just needs more. But she's never had to cover her face or keep her head down because she thought she was ugly. It's been amazing for my kids and I've even turned it on to adults who have suffered all their lives with bad acne (also gone the accutane way) and have had great results.

This remedy originally came from a friend's pediatrician who explained that if more dermatologist recommended this remedy, they might lose a lot of business. I try not to be so cynical, but you might not get buy in from your doctor if he or she hasn't seen results given to him or her from your local drug rep. Good luck. A Mom with Kids with Acne in Berkeley


Help for 11-year-old's acne

May 2008

I'm seeking a dermatologist that specializes in acne for my 11 year old daughter. What products have people had luck with or found did not work? She is even starting to have break outs on her back now. Her father had fairly bad acne, so I would like to get some professional advice for her now before any scarring occurs. Worried Mom


Hi,

I'm sorry your about your daughter's acne. My girl started breaking out and I researched this topic. The only 3 proven treatments are:

* Benzoyl peroxide with antibiotics, (Benzamycin)

She is almost acne free 1 to 2 pimples and months. You have to use this product twice and day. Start slowly...you should start to see clearing in a week and every day it gets better and better. Also, I use a little tea tree oil - very effective. Please, don't waste your money or time. Get the Benzamycin immediately. You don't need to see a Dermatologist your regular doctor can prescribe this medicine for you. My daughter is very happy about her skin now and thanks me all the time. Good Luck,

Additional info... * Retinoids (vitamin A derivatives), for example, Retin-A, Differin, Tazorac, treat blackheads and whiteheads, the first lesions of acne. The most common side effect is irritation. (I don't recommend this)

* Antibiotics, either topically applied to the skin (clindamycin, erythromycin), or taken orally (tetracycline and its derivatives) control surface bacteria which aggravate and often foster acne. Antibiotics are more effective when combined with benzoyl peroxide or retinoids) JC


Has your teen used Accuntane? Is it safe?

April 2008

Anyone had a teenager on this drug to treat severe acne? Both of my daughters (15, 17) have been advised by a dermatologist to use this for 5-7months. My main concern is what if it causes birth defects in FUTURE pregnancies when they decidde to have children 10, 15 years from now?


My daughter spent 7 months on Accutane last year. I don't believe it has any impact on future pregnancies from reading the binder of info you must read and sign off on before your daughters will be allowed to take it. (government requirement) I would warn you though, that the drug is very impactful on mood. Depression is one of the risks and while for her, it never was at the clinical level, she just experienced the stress and pressure of teen life much more intensely than she did in the year before or the year since. (And this year really has had more of that stress!) The drug just seems to sap them of their ability to bounce back from adversity. It might be good to have some of your treatment months fall in the summer when they have less pressure to cope with. We did Sept to April and it made for a pretty lousy year. Ann


I took Accutane for six months or so when I was 18 (in 1990). I had my first child at 23 (1995) and my second at 26 (1998). They were/are both perfectly healthy and have shown no signs of any exposure to anything toxic. The Accutane was more effective than any other medication, although by the time I was in my early 30s I needed a second course, which I finished last year. Worked for me


Something to consider: Accutane can trigger attacks of depression in those predisposed to it (at least it did with me, in a very big way, after both courses of treatment I had). Accutane Survivor


Teen son's presistent acne - worried about scarring

April 2006

My teenaged son has developed acne and it is very persistent. I am concerned about scarring, and he simply hates it. What have other parents/teens found that works? Also, does anyone recommend a dermatologist and/or an aesthetician in Oakland who is good with teenaged boys? Thank you! Concerned Mom


Both my teen sons(age 17 and 14) have acne and both are treated by a local dermatologist. We all go to Dr. Warren Dotz and think he's terrific. Older son had cystic acne that showed up in his hairline. I was so worried it would scar his face. He went through two rounds of accutane with no side effects other than dry skin and lips. Both boys now use various topical creams - tazorac which empties the pores, and clindamycin a topical antibiotic. Younger son is doing well with topicals. I am strong beleiver in help from a great dermatologist. You have to be diligent with the medicines and go to the doc regularly but it really pays off with nice skin. I hate to think what would have happened to my oldest without this help. It's a tender age to have this happen to their skin and helping them out with good dermatology care is such a great thing to do. Good luck, Happy Faces


Proactiv has helped both my daughter and my son with their acne problems. It works rather miraculously. My daughter tried many things first, which didn't work. When my son started getting some acne, he started on it early and so far it has prevented the acne from progressing at all. You can look for it online: http://proactiv.com/

I also recently heard of a prescription skin cream called Differin that can be gotten from a dermatologist. We haven't had any personal experience with it, but I know an aesthetician with beautiful, flawless skin who said this cream cured her acne when nothing else did. I hope this helps. Anonymous


I highly recommend Amina at Face Magic (Pomona at Solano in Albany. She's wonderful with teens. anon


My son also had a problem with acne. At first he tried various brands of drug store products (cleanser, astringent, exfoliant, antibiotic), which didn't work very well. He moved on to ProActiv which also didn't work well, even through he followed the instructions to the letter and stayed with it for almost a year (at great expense). Finally, we spoke with his regular pediatrician about his acne, and she prescribed a prescription antibiotic and retin-a to use with his regular cleanser. His acne cleared up within 2 months and, although he has an occasional pimple, his skin has been virtually clear for over 2 years. And our health insurance covers the medications above our co-pay. Good luck. Acne Mom


Murad makes a acne treatment that I buy for every kid with acne that is close to me. It really works. You can get these products at beauty centers, there is one in el cerrito plaza and one on solano next to Peets. Warning they are expensive. spot to spot


Your teens primary care provider (physician or nurse practitioner) will be able to help. There are a number of very effective topical preparations available. Acne is really hard for teens. Make an appointment for him to be evaluated ASAP! NP Mom


Tetracycline for 16-year-old's acne?

Sept 2005

My 16 year old just started taking tetracycline for acne. It is the first few days, she has been upset anyway, and I am so worried about how she will manage any adverse reactions at school. She started over the weekend, but I think the next two weeks will be crucial. Can anyone tell of their experience using this drug? It is the first level of meds suggested by Dr. Walker, after trying topical agents. anon


I presented a talk on acne after doing quite a bit of research on the topic. Use of antibiotics has had mixed results. The latest published info: long-term ( 1 year) use of antibiotics predisposed women to a much higher risk of breast cancer in one large study. Some other methods to help deal with acne include a superlative diet with lots of fresh whole foods, adequate protein, essential fatty acids, and 1/4-1/2 cup of lactofermented foods (cleanse the liver and colon; recommended by Dr. Tom Cowan, MD). As acne has been called ''skin diabetes,'' avoiding all sugars (even fake ones) can help. Grains and milk products can raise insulin-like growth factor-1, which raises both androgens and insulin, plus stimulates sebum and keratin. Special foods to use will be high in real vitamin A (eggs, organ meats, shell and other fish), vitamins C and E, plus the minerals selenium and zinc (the ''ACESZs''). I would add folate, niacinamide and chromium rich foods too. Supplements that have helpful include 1 tsp Swedish Bitters at bedtime (more cleansing) and internal and external use of beta sitisterol, the latter being a plant phytonutrient that naturally lowers the provocative androgen contributing to most acne. Other topicals that have a high success rate are tea tree oil (5% solution is as effective as 5% benzoyl peroxide), aloe vera juice, and bee propolis extract. Exposure to UVB can decrease acne, but our season at 38 degrees N ended in September for obtaining this from the sun. Look forward to it in May, however. Nori Hudson


Tetracycline works extremely well against acne, and I can't remember experiencing any side effects other than increased sun sensitivity. The problem is that there are obvious drawbacks to taking antibiotics for an extended period of time ... but as soon you stop taking the tetracycline, the acne comes back. So I'd suggest getting some opinions from other dermatologists. Personally, I've had wonderful results from Neutrogena's home microdermabrasion kit ... but if your daughter has cystic acne or rosacea, I wouldn't recommend it. -- Long-time acne fighter


I took tetracycline for acne for several years, beginning in my late teens. I used it in combination with Retin-A and Cleocin (both topical agents). While this combination didn't completely clear up my acne, it did help considerably. Has your daughter discontinued the use of the topicals? I haven't heard of giving just an antibiotic and nothing else, but I'm sure it depends on the severity of the condition. I wish her luck. I know how difficult it is to have problematic skin. Anon


28 years ago, I started taking tetracycline for acne and continued for about 4 years with no side effects then or now. It cleared my skin quite a bit, but later prescriptions worked better. Please email me if you have questions. Best regards, emrosen


Yikes! I had to respond to your post and share my experience, which was NOT positive. I took tetracycline for acne for almost 2 years in college. Unfortunately, it didn't do much for my acne at all. But it wraught havoc on the rest of my body, and I am still paying for it 15 years later. Tetracycline is a VERY STRONG ANTIBIOTIC, and taking antibiotics of any kind (even milder ones) for more than 2 weeks or so, can be very harmful on your body in several ways. In the process of killing harmful bacteria, it also kills the good bacteria your body needs to digest food, fight off colds, flus and other illnesses, fight off yeast infections, and pretty much everything your organs need to do to keep you healthy. Taking antibiotics for extended periods of time, such as for acne, does not allow your body to replenish its good bacteria (as it would do after a normal course of antibiotics, say, for an infection). It leaves your body extremely weakened and susceptible to all kinds of things.

My personal experience was that the tetracycline did not help to clear up my acne - but I was young and desperate and hated having acne, and I kept hoping it would work and help it go away. As a result of the tetracycline, I got ulcers in my esophagus because the antibiotics had eaten into my esophagus. The Physician's Desk Reference says that tetracycline has to be taken with a lot of food or milk (not something my dermatologist told me) and that it CAN cause ulcers (again, not something the dermatologist told me). Needless to say, I was so surprised, and extremely miserable from the experience, and it took several months for the ulcers to heal (ouch). Needless to say, I stopped the tetracycline, and eventually the acne went away on its own (more on that in a minute).

As a result of having been on antibiotics for so long, I had no good bacteria to fight yeast, and therefore got yeast infections about every 2-3 months the whole time I was on it (and later - I still struggle with them occasionally when my yeast gets out of whack). I went travelling in Europe, and caught parasites because my body had no way to fight them off since all my good bacteria was gone. The parasites went undiagnosed for too long (the medical system... don't get me started) and as a result I ended up with ulcerative colitis in my large intestine. That lasted 3 years and took a LOT of work to clear up - I've been clear for over 5 years, thank God.

All this to say a few things: I am not at all saying that all this will happen to your child. But what I am saying is that there are long-term reprecussions to long-term use of antibiotics, especially such strong ones as tetracycline. If your child's skin does not respond to antibiotics at all after a month, I would take her off them as they are clearly not helping. Give your child acidophilus daily the whole time she is on the antibiotics, to help replenish her good bacteria. And try to help her cut down her sweets and bready things - so that she doesn't get an overgrowth of yeast in her system. Yogurt is great for good bacteria intake.

If I had it to do all over again with what I know now - and I have learned a lot as the result of all I've experienced health-wise - I would go see an allergist or alternative practitioner to be tested for allergies to foods, because I am pretty sure that the reason my body had acne in college was (1) because I was eating WAY too much dairy and my body didn't like it, and (2) because my hormones were out of balance and having a hard time being processed by my liver (this is actually something I am working on now with an alternative practitioner with great results). Maybe my hormones eventually got balanced and that is why the acne went away, or maybe I eat less dairy and cut out caffeine - who knows. But I do know that the tetracycline sure didn't help with the acne.

Also, the longer you use an antibiotic, the weaker it gets and the less effective it is on your body. I am pretty convinced that after having used it for so long, it wouldn't do anything to kill bacteria in my body if I ever had an infection that required antibiotics. Ultimately, you want to ''save'' use of antibiotics for life-threatening illnesses, so that they will actually work if you really need them

I would be happy to talk to you more about this if you have questions. As you can probably tell, it is something I feel really strongly about. Feel free to email and I will give you my number. And I would be happy to recommend some great people who might be able to help with a non-medical approach to your daughter's acne. galadam


I took tetracycline for acne when I was a teen. It was moderately effective in reducing acne, but my acne was never especially bad. I'm not sure what side effects you are worried about, but I didn't have any of them.

However, one day, several months after after starting the drug, I started itching intensely all over my body. It wasn't pleasant, but neither was it excruciating--maybe comparable to the chicken pox. Apparently it was an allergic reaction. Following the dermatogist's recommendation, I discontinued tetracycline, took a benadryl or something similar, and I was fine in less than a day. I think he put me on a sulfa drug like Keflex next.

I hope this isn't alarming, because I didn't think it was big deal then or now, and I would put my child on tetracycline for acne if the dermatologist were to recommend it.


i took tetracycline for acne and had a hard time committing to the eating restrictions (take around, not with, food; no milk, which i drank at the time). but the worst problem was the yeast infections. i don't mean to be gross, but i was thirteen and didn't know why i was ''peeing cottage cheese'' -- it literally flowed and looked like wet toilet paper clumps. for this reason alone, i would definitely not recommend. why kill all the body's natural flora? anon


Non-medical solution to teen's acne?

Oct 2004

Please advise re skin care products for a teen girl with frequent break-outs, and many red spots (from picked-open pimples). We are not interested in a ''medical'' solution. A friend's child had severe mental side-effects from Retin-A, and this is not uncommon. Proactive web reviews indicate severe burning and skin cracking as a side-effect. Have you or your teen found any products that work? Anon


I have a good friend named Gillian Christie who markets a line of all natural, botanically based skin care products by a Swiss company called Arbonne. She reports many posaitve outcomes with her products. More info at www.gillian.myarbonne.com larry


I have now had two children (teens) who have benefitted from skin care/products offered by Katherine Leverette, an esthetician who operates Solutions Center (510-893-7546). The Center is near Laney College in Oakland. For years, we have referred to her as ''the Acne Queen.'' She uses natural products, explains a lot about skin care, and is a total, delightful character. Ilene


Believe it or not, we have found head & shoulders shampoo to work quite effectively. My family uses it all the time when they start breaking out. Just wash your face with it. Worth a try.


This to the parent who seeks products for their child's acne. There is absolutely no product that will work if the young person ''picks at'' his/her skin. The number one factor in whether small blackheads become pimples is contact with the hands. Bacteria and irritation are going to win every time. Please help your kid train him/herself to NEVER touch the skin on the face except when washing. How I wish I'd been told this before I endured Phisohex, Clearasil, Retin -A treatments, sunlamps, tetracycline, chocolate-deprivation. A dermatologist taught me this and my skin cleared up perfectly from that day forward. Good luck. Kathe


Birth Control Pills for Acne?

June 2003

I am looking for someone who can give me an education regarding the benefits and side effects of taking Triphasil -28, a low dose birth control pill, for control of acne. My daughter was given these at the Berkeley Health Clinic, without my knowledge, after she and I had briefly discussed how these were offered as an possibility for controlling her skin problems (which in my opinion could be much worse, but her face was broken out much of the month). When she originally brought it up I said that I thought that hormone control for acne might be effective, but seemed very intrusive for the body and I said I did not want her to do it. However, Arianna went to the clinic and the pills were prescribed, according to the clinic doctor and Arianna, when we talked about it, both for acne and to control menstrual irregularity, which she apparently has been experiencing since joining the BHS crew team. I tend to stay away from most medical treatments for my children, and would like to know how to discuss the pros and cons with my daughter, and to better understand any long-term consequences of this. The clinic doctor said that as far as they were concerned, there was no danger in low dosage birth control pills, either immediate or long-term. Also, if anyone knows the regulations regarding treatment of minors without parental consent, I would also be interested in understanding that better. The clinic apparently supports kids with any kind of need for sexual activity without contacting parents, which I actual would agree with; but since this was another kind of treatment I wonder where the parent fits in. Has anyone had experiences of this kind? I want to support my daughter to make informed decisions, and realize she may not always agree with me. Thanks.


RE: Birth Control Pills and Acne

1. I prefer Dr. Katie Rodan MD, 510 763-2662 and her Proactiv system. 1-800- 950-4695. Properly applied - use enough and every day, follow directions it works wonders. We found that we do not use enough to be on the monthly delivery. We get shipments once or twice a year. We do see Dr. Rodan once or twice a year also, though our insurance covers the visit. Proactiv is over the counter.

2. There is a lot of free literature in the library and on the internet to treat this naturally, though I do not know the best direction for this. Cleaning the face with non-allergic, non irritating cleaners is always important no matter what method you choose.

3. Hormones and no danger? Read the insert on the prescription. There are many current trials on hormones that have not been completed. The ones on hormones for older women have had results so negative that they were discontinued. Once I was asked to sign a release from a doctor for PUVA treatment, which many people use. The doctor was assuring me that there were ''no dangers''. I then asked why he wanted me to sign a release? I took out my pen and notebook and started to draft a statement that the doctor would assume any and all damages that may be incurred using PUVA, and he asked what I was writing. I told him, that I would sign his release if he would sign mine. My appointment ended really fast. Everyone's definition of ''danger'' might not be the same.

4. Do you really want to train your kid to take a pill every day if there are effective alternatives? If this is a last resort because she has difficulty being consistant with topical treatments, will she remember to take a pill?

5.Your teen needs to really understand the Birth Control Pills do not protect against HIV. Teens are one of the fastest growing HIV positive age groups.

6. I have dealt with the Dr. - patient thing too. My sense is you are responsible legally for her decisions until 18, and you remain her mother forever. Before our next doctor's visit, I will leave it up to my daughter to tell me if she wants me to remain with her. We ususally split the time with her ped, but she is not always comfortable alone. teen mom


I highly recommend the Acne Clinic in Walnut Creek. This place offers a safe non-medical alternative to clearing up acne and staying away from birth control pills when not needed.I went to them for my daughter with GREAT results. stefani


What meds have worked for your teen?

June 2003

Though there have been many previous postings about acne, I am wondering if anyone out there has found help! We have been to a Dermatologist and have been following a prescribed course of antibiotics, topical solutions etc. all to no real success. I have ordered the Proactiv line of products and am considering the use of birth control pills which have been suggested by the dermatologist. My daughter is feeling very desperate and I want to do whatever I can to try to help her. What has worked for others? concerned mom


Make an appointment to see Dr. Katie Rodan MD, 510 763-2662 , she is in Oakland and takes many insurance carriers. You can call to see if she takes your insurance. ProActiv is her line and she has had very few failures. It might not work if the steps are not followed properly, One of her assistants can review how your daughter uses the system and help her make adjustments. We were doing one thing wrong and when we corrected that - boom it works perfectly. Sometimes in person instruction is better than an product insert. teen mom


We went through every antibiotic and every topical alternative for our son (who was 15 at the time). He had cystic acne, with intense red areas, swelling--it was a very difficult time. We finally bit the bullet and put him on accutane. I know how controversial it is, but it is the only thing that worked. And months after finishing the course of treatment, he remains acne free.

There are so many safeguards now that we decided that it was worth the slight risk involved to save him from further emotional trauma and physical scarring. Dermatologists must be certified in order to prescribe it, and your child has to have regular lab tests. Everyone I've spoken with who has a child who has used it, or who has used it him or herself (it's amazing how many people I know who have used it or knows someone who has) swears by it.

I'm so happy and relieved that my son looks like himself again, and is no longer embarrassed or disfigured by acne. It's worth looking into for your daughter. Best of luck to her. (Please feel free to email me if you have questions.) Norma


The main advice I have about acne treatment is that not everything works for everybody, and it's certainly worth it to experiment with ''natural'', non-medical treatments before going the drug route. However, everyone reacts differently to every treatment, and if your child is already getting physical scars (not to mention the emotional ones) from severe acne, you might want to explore Accutane. Actually, if you are already being seen by a dermatologist, and various antibiotics haven't worked, the doctor will usually suggest Accutane. As controversial as that drug is, it is actually a cure for acne in most patients. It has been a miracle drug for my teenage daughter, even though I am uncomfortable with medication that isn't absolutely necessary.

Acne is a ''hot'' topic for me, having suffered my whole life with severe acne that has been resistant to all meds and treatments, both Western and alternative. The only thing that worked for me was in 1966 (!) when I took a high-dose estrogen birth control pill that cleared up my skin but caused terrible side effects (migraines, huge weight gain, edema,depression) that forced me to quit. I am in my 50's and still have acne flare-ups, plus my face is badly scarred.

People who have never experienced severe acne may not realize that not only does it cause emotional distress, but it is also quite painful to have huge infected cysts all over one's face, back, chest, and arms. No, it is not a life threatening condition, but it sure makes day-to-day life tough, especially for sensitive teens. Please don't let people give you a hard time if you decide to go with something as heavy-duty as Accutane.

When my daughter developed acne when she was about 12, we tried Proactiv first, which worked great after about 3 weeks. After about 7 months, though, even with diligent use, the products didn't work anymore. The pediatrician prescribed a topical cream, which worked for awhile, too. Then came the dermatologist, and a series of topicals and antibiotics which all worked for awhile, then lost effectiveness. Her skin scars easily, and she already had several purple ''pits'' on her face. I finally gave my OK to Accutane, and although she still has scars (that will supposedly fade with time), she has perfectly clear skin now. Those of you who have suffered from true, severe acne know what a miracle that is.

Whatever you try from the advice you receive from this list or from the archives, remember that any treatment usually takes at least 3 weeks to work.
anon


To the concerned mom who's dealing with her daughter's acne - my advice is to keep trying. My son went through treatments with clearasil, benzoyl peroxide, minocylin, tetracycline,benzamycin gel, and retin-a - none of which made a dent for long. What I didn't realize is that cystic acne can get very bad very fast, so while we were ditzing around with these remedies, he was getting worse. He is now on accutane (the generic version) for three months now (the full course is 5-6 months), and his skin is almost completely clear, except for some scarring. It is a scary drug and I wouldn't recommend it if your daughter is already prone to depression or unable to talk about her feelings. It has been (rarely) linked to suicidal feelings. I monitor my son's mood closely (this just means that I pay attention, not that I interrogate him...)and he's required to get monthly or bimonthly blood tests. It is also a very expensive drug, although covered by most health plans. The good news is that it works when nothing else does. I wish you luck in your search. Anna


Re: the Proactiv system, my wife purchased it, both for her self and our younger son (now 21!!). It works well for my wife, but not so much for my son-- the difference is (no surprise) that you need to be pretty disciplined in your usage-- our son runs around so much (college student, active social life w/ erratic hours), that he doesn't use it appropriately and doesn't get the same results. Hope that helps... Jim W.


Dear Concerned Mom: I don't know whether techniques useful for males are also helpful for females, but if they are, then you should know that my sixteen-year-old son has just begun using an over-the-counter twice-daily wash on the strong recommendation of the parents of one of his younger friends, who claim (and their son's face apparently proves) does wonders: Clean & Clear( Continuous Control( acne cleanser by Johnson & Johnson.

ACCEPT NO SUBSTITUTES. The unique ingredient is benzoyl peroxide, which is neither hydrogen peroxide nor any another other kind of peroxide. As I understand it, no other product contains this particular kind of bleach, and, in using the facial wash twice a day, a small amount of bensoyl peroxide remains within the skin pores, which inhibits the development of acne, whose growth depends in part on bacteria. The benzoyl peroxide kills the bacteria, so no acne can develope.

NOTES: Because
- acne developes over approximately three months (or so I'm told), it takes about ninety days for the twice-daily wash to show its full effects: perfectly clear skin
- the active ingredient is a kind of bleach, it's recommended that anyone using it sleep on white pillow cases; while normally my son enjoys deeply colored flannel bed fittings, he has no problem whatsoever using white pillow cases -- at least for the summer!

Please also note that, while our very good friends highly recommend this cleanser, our own son has just begun using it, so we cannot personally attest to its effectiveness. Nevertheless, on seeing how well it has worked with our friend's son, we are eager to spend the summer testing it. If you decide to do so as well, our best wishes on your daughter's success! Anonymous


Nov 2001

My daughter, 12, has recently started to get acne. What meds (over the counter or prescription) have your found that worked? Thanks


My daughter uses Clean and Clear compulsively and it keeps her face in good shape. I have to buy her TUBES and TUBES of the stuff -- for her backpack, locker, gym bag, volleyball bag, etc., but something is working. Maybe it's just washing her face often. Barbara


My daughter is using Bezamycin gel (it's actually a cream) which works great. It is a brand name prescription medication however and it's VERY expensive (like around $90/jar) so it's only practical if your health insurance pays for it. However, if they don't, I've discovered that it contains 2 active ingredients; one is over-the counter (about $3 a tube) and the other is a generic prescription (so a lot cheaper). (What a scam those drug companies have got going!) I can't remember the names of the two active ingredients, but any pharmacist can tell you. Claire


My daughter's acne responded well to Proactiv. This is a kit with several parts that must be used daily for decent results, so your child must be motivated. The best price we found was through WonderfulBuys on the web. You can join a club where they will ship the stuff to you every 2 or 4 months, and you get free shipping that way. Here's their e-mail address, or you can just go search the website (wonderfulbuys.com): proactiv club Good luck! Dawn


In reply to the mother asking about acne medication: my daughter has used ProActiv for the last two years with good results. I can't recall offhand their website address but if you search for it, you'll find it. It's relatively economical especially in comparison to prescription medication, about $50.00 for a 60-day supply of treatments. I think their start-up pack is the facewash, lotion and spot treatment. It may take a month or so to see results, depending on your daughter's case. In this case, anyways, you can believe the infomercial hype. Karen


Both of my kids have had acne and have been treated by a dermatologist over a period of 3 years. Many of the prescription topical applications and oral medications worked in varying degrees and for varying periods of time. I have learned that the combination of medications in relation to the specific kinds of acne present make a difference. Also, sometimes the acne becomes resistant to the medication. Unless your child's acne responds to over the counter benzoyl peroxide, I recommend you find a dermatologist (who hopefully is covered by your health plan).

My older son ultimately took Accutane, and I wish he had begun it much sooner. None of the other treatments helped very much and those that did help stopped working after a while. He finished his 5 month course of Accutane last March, and his skin has been clear since then. By the way, he had relatively few side effects - slightly raised cholosterol level and dry lips.

Other medications that have been helpful are oral Minocyclin, Bactrim (though my son turned out to be allergic to it), topical Tazorac and Xerac AC, topical Benziclin.


My son started developing a few pimples around 12 1/2. The following year they were more frequent and lasted longer, but would eventually go away. When he was 14, the pimples seemed more intransigent. I took him to see a dermatologist, Dr. Greta Clarke on Milvia Street. She prescribed two creams, to be applied on alternate nights. The first cream, BenzaClin (clindamycin-benzoyl peroxide gel) is stored in the refrigerator. The second cream is Differin (adapalene). They didn't seem to work at first, but after a month his skin completely cleared up. He continues to use the creams to forestall new pimples and there appear to be no side effects, although I have not researched the toxicity of these drugs. We're very happy with the results of this regime. I only wish I had taken him to the dermatologist earlier, but it's hard to tell if acne is a problem that will go away or if it will get worse. Good luck.


I have found that an easy and cheap acne treatment is to dab Hydrogen Peroxide on your pimples after cleaning your face with gentle cleanser. Do this preferably at night.


My son developed pretty severe acne so after trying all the over the counter products we went to his physician and ended up over a period of many months going through all the progressively stronger prescription medications for acne up to the maximum allowable dosage for Acutane, which is pretty scary stuff. He had to go off Acutane eventually because they can only prescribe it for a certain period of time, then you have to wait 6 months or so before they can represcribe it. After the Acutane, he tried Proactiv and that's when his skin finally cleared up completely and has been clear now for probably a year without any follow-up care. Wish we had tried Proactiv first!!


I have had great luck with an infomercial product called Proactiv Solution (http://www.buyitontheweb.com/hit-proactiv.html ).

It has helped my teenage daughter's acne tremendously and is also great on adult acne. Em (7/00)


Accutane and Depression

Does anyone have teenagers that have used the presciption drug for acne called Accutane? I recall reading somewhere that it has been known to cause serious depression and even suicide with teenagers. I have a friend who has a daughter that began using it and caused serious depression soon after. Anyone with information on how to reverse the side effects would be greatly appreciated...


To the person who wanted info about teens and Accutane: My daughter took Accutane for the entire treatment last summer and early fall(about 16-20 weeks). She was fine while taking it, and it really cleared up her skin. I was very concerned about possible depression because I have a lot of it in my family, but the doctor assured me that this side effect was rare. So far, she's been okay except for the usual ups and downs of adolescence.


Regarding Accutane and Depression:

I do not know of depression associated with Accutane. You can look up information on most drugs, their uses and any warnings on line or through a physicians desk reference (PDR) which should be in most libraries.

Counseling is obvious as a suggestion because there may be deeper reasons which the Accutane only sparked.

HOWEVER, regarding reversal of depression caused by a nutritional imbalance or drug reactions, there are some nutritional approaches as well. In her book, The Diet Cure, Julia Ross, who runs a large drug, alchohol and diet addiction recovery program in Marin, outlines the uses of amino acids her clinic uses (suplements found at most whole food/nutrition stores.) and which ones work to offer support for each set of problems (depression being one). This is also a great reference for those dealing with issues of diet (and dieting) related mood swings, obsessions, cravings, and mal-nutrition (often a part of female teenage eating patterns). She also addresses hormonal shifts, food allergies, etc. which could be at the root of the acne problems. I would investigate the nutritional side of the issue immediately. While I was using them for allergy reactions, the few amino acids supplements I've tried worked almost immediately. Bettina


In 1998, there was a Medscape warning about accutane ( http://www.fda.gov/medwatch/safety.htm) isolated reports of depression, psychosis and rarely suicidal thoughts and actions. FDA and the drug manufacturer are strengthening this label warning, even though it is difficult to identify the exact cause of these problems. Such problems could already be more common among the patient populations likely to be on the drug. However, because some patients who reported depression also reported that the depression subsided when they stopped taking the drug and came back when they resumed taking it, the agency and the manufacturer felt the strengthened labeling was warranted as a precautionary measure. My understanding is that this possible side effect needs to be balanced with the depression involved for teenagers with severe acne. Sherry


More info here:
About.com - Accutane


March 2004

There have been postings in the past regarding taking the prescription drug ''Accutane'' or isotretinoin for acne. Saw this article regarding a new national registry for all users of this drug because of the severe danger the drug poses during pregnancy. The article also chronicles other specifics about the treatment that people should be aware of. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story=/ap/20040227/ap_on_he_me/accutane_pregnancy_7

claudia


Natural Remedies for Acne

I would appreciate recommendations of natural or less-toxic approaches to a mild case of adolescent pimples. I've checked the digest, and was surprised to see this hasn't come up on the teen list! Thanks.

Joan


I have worked with a number of parents who introduced their teens to Super Blue Green Algae (Aphanizomenon flos aquae) and have had great results. One man told me that his back acne cleared after one week.
MaryAnn


I have had a good experience treating acne with a Chinese Herbologist in San Francisco who is a skin specialist. Her name is Prof. Jialing Yu, and her office number is 415-337-0308. Both my 14-year-old neice and I have been very happy with her treatments. She gives Chinese herbs which are all natural. The treatment is on the expensive side, though, so may be overkill for a mild case. But if you are wary of Accutane or antibiotics, which you would probably get at a Western dermatologist, this seems to be a safer approach.
Diane