Safety of Playgrounds & Parks

Parent Q&A

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  • We need to fix some patches on the ground of my child's preschool.  I believe it's called poured-in-place rubber playground surfacing.  Does anyone have any recommendations or have suggestions as to the most cost efficient, nice looking and safest way to do it? Have you used any specific companies or done yourself?

    Thanks!

    I work for a preschool, and we used the same vendor that the City of Albany uses to replace our PIP (poured in place). They did a great job and it was the most affordable, responsible company I found out of all the ones I contacted: www.spectraturf.com. If it's starting to get beat up there is a chance that all of it needs to be replaced. I would ask a vendor but if I remember correctly, PIP has a life span of about 20 years max. 

    I can't imagine doing this yourself. The material is heated up and literally poured hot and smelly. I can't imagine that it's sold in the small quantities that you would probably need for just patching, and then you would have to figure out how to heat it up enough to melt and pour it. Then it needs to cool and firm up of a couple of days. Just in case you aren't aware of it, playgrounds (including private preschools) are supposed to follow the specifications detailed in the Playground Safety Handbook issued by the US Consumer Product Safety Commission : www.cpsc.gov/s3fs-public/325.pdf

  • Has anyone else witnessed or heard of an older male (~60s) or younger woman (~late 30s/early 40s) filming and taking pictures of the nannies and children at Little Frog Park in Oakland? The older male was white and was wearing a green shirt, light jacket, and gray shorts. He was also wearing a gray hat with writing on it. The younger woman was also white with dark blond hair with a toddler and baby with her. As one of the parents, I am absolutely not okay with strangers filming/taking pictures of my children. I am concerned with what they are doing with the content. 

    It's not clear from your post if you saw this yourself or just heard about it. If you did see it, I think you should have notified the OPD. If you heard about it from someone else, maybe it had something to do with an article in the Berkeley Scanner last week about a guy who was arrested for taking photographs of children and "up-skirt" photos of women at Berkeley Natural Foods. Here's the link: https://www.berkeleyscanner.com/2023/04/29/courts/former-sex-offender-p…

    Not aware of this particular situation or these individuals, but I have heard from our nanny about something similar happening at other parks in Berkeley (I think Cedar Rose, maybe James Kenney). Not sure if there is something more creepy going on, but I have also seen folks post pictures like this on Nextdoor, when they’ve witnessed what they think is some sort of bad behavior or negligence on the part of nannies that they think the parents should know about. So that would be the less nefarious interpretation, though it may not make you feel much better. 

    If it's on public property, a person has a right to film and take pictures.  It may be innocuous, maybe not, but they have the right.  Take your child to a different park if you feel uncomfortable. 

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Questions

Arsenic in playground structures?

Dec 2004

There was a discussion about arsenic (or some other poison) that was found in older wooden playground structures a while ago. I couldn't find it, so could you all give me the low-down on it. Is it a real danger, or a rumor? Are there particular parks to avoid or ways to tell what is safe and what isn't? Thanks. Anon


There's an organization called the Safe Playground Project that is focused on just this issue. I think their website is still rudimentary, but should have the basic info (and contact info). The address is www.safe2play.org. brg


I cannot speak about any specific play structures, but have read a bit on pressure-treated lumber. Until recently, all pressure treated wood has been treated with CCA (chromated copper arsenate), which will release arsenic when rubbed, cut, abraded, etc. So in addition to concerns about playing on the structure itself, the soil/sand beneath a CCA-treated play structure (or deck) may be contaminated. I believe it is being phased out. According to the EPA web site: ''February 12, 2002, the EPA announced a voluntary decision by the industry to discontinue the consumer uses of CCA. The discontinued uses include dimensional lumber and wood used in play structures, decks, picnic tables, landscaping timbers, residential fencing, patios, and walkways/boardwalks. Dimension or dimensional ! lumber is defined as lumber that is from 2'' up to, but not including, 5'' thick, and that is 2'' or more in width. Dimension also is classified as framing, joists, planks, and rafters.'' After 2003, stores could sell existing stock (for residential use), but are not getting any more.

CCA-treated wood is being replaced with new types of pressure-treated wood that do not contain any arsenic. They still look very much the same - regular indentations where the chemical was forced in under pressure, and a greenish tinge (from copper component). ACQ lumber is treated with alkaline copper quaternary, and CBA uses copper boron azole.(The structure mentioned in the last few newletters may have used one of these new, non-arsenic, pressure-treated materials.) Hard to say whether these will be found to be harmful in the future, but at least they don't contain arsenic. The scraps are not considered hazardous waste. Note that if you build with ACQ or CA lumber, you have to use stainless steel (preferrred) or hot-dip galvanized (acceptable) hardware - screws, nails, etc. - because the high copper content will corrode standard hardware. R.K.


Cancer risk in playground equipment?

Nov 2003

I'm trying to make sense of a news story I just read about the EPA finding that kids who are exposed to treated wood (like on playground equipment)are at elevated risk of some cancers. How serious a risk is this? anon


The way to make sense of all such statistics is to find out what the base rate of risk is. For example, if a story says that kids exposes to such- and-such are at 10% higher risk for disease X, and the normal risk of the disease is .01% (meaning ten kids out of every 100,000 get it), then the risk for kids exposed to such-and-such is .011% (meaning 11 kids out of every 100,000 get it). Ten percent increased risk looks like a big deal, and in one way it is -- but if the base rate is small to begin with (as is the case with most cancer in children), it doesn't mean that huge numbers of children will get cancer. kd


I think the risk is quite serious, and it concerns me greatly. The pressurized woods are treated with arsenic (a heavy metal) to make them weather resistant. However, when it rains, arsenic leaches out of the wood, into the surrounding ground and whatever touches it. Arsenic is extremely carcinogenic. It's appalling, and it's EVERYWHERE! There are lumber yards where the workers refuse to handle the stuff, because of it's toxicity (my father is a contractor, that's how I know). I would do everything I could to avoid having my children around that stuff. Next year, it will finally be illegal to sell it, but that doesn't address all the pressurized wood that is currently in use! No treated wood, please!


Just last week the EPA released its draft risk assessment addressing this very issue, that is, of playground equipment (wooden) treated with chromated copper arsenate or CCA. It has found that indeed, children who play on CCA treated equipment do face an increased risk of cancer primarily related to the presence of arsenic. This coincides with the CPSC's recent risk assessment that found the same thing. It does depend of course on various factors, and I would urge you to go to the EPA's website to read the draft risk assessment. It is very long, but you can read the executive summary. I work for the SF Parks dept. and have been very involved recently in evaluation of all of our playgrounds for the presence of arsenic so that we can ensure the structures are adequately sealed (which does afford some protection, but how much is unknown; there are longer term plans to remove such structures as money becomes available).

I would recommend talking to your local park dept. to see what they are doing about it. Also, if you don't know if the structure you are playing on contains CCA then asssume it does. Then be sure to wash children's hands with water/soap after playing on it, and definitely before they eat anything. Hand to mouth contact is the primary route of exposure here.

An aside; children who also are exposed to CCA-treated decks at home increase thier risk, and kids who live in warm climates have an increased risk due to being outside more. So the answer to your question is yes, there appears to be an increased risk of cancer, but there are things you as a parent can do about it until such time as our cities can afford to replace all CCA treated structures. Hilary


If memory serves, I believe the City of Berkeley replaced all the treated wood in its playgrounds at great expense some years ago, because of these same concerns. Probably other cities and school playgrounds have done the same. If you want to confirm this, you could check with your city's recreation department. Here is the web site for Berkeley's: http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/parks/ (This is a great website by the way - there is a list and map of all the parks with very detailed information about each one, also new and ongoing projects, etc.) Ginger