- Babies 13 months apart
- Best Sibling Spacing? (we have a 2-year-old)
- Best Sibling Spacing? (we have a 16-mo-old)
- C-section scheduling and spacing sibling birthdays
- related pages: Having a second child and Having a third child
- More Advice about Siblings
The birthmother of our 11 month-old son is again pregnant, and there is a very good chance that we will adopt her new baby due in two months. We are trying to prepare ourselves, to the degree that is possible, and would love to hear from others who have had children this close together re: how you have dealt with sleep, general logistics, maintaining your sanity - anything! Thanks very much. Avi
Congratulations, that's very exciting! Our children are 16 months apart and their relationship is very close. They play together nicely most of the time, and the eldest looks out for her little brother (even though she's only 1 inch taller).
On how we've dealt with sleep? Well, I've taken 3 naps in 22 months. That's quite a difference than the daily 3 p.m. snooze I used to have with my first child. Our children are and have been on 2 separate sleep schedules (an up-in-the-morning son, and a stay-up-late-daughter). I don't know how other parents get their children on the same schedule, but if you were able to do this you might get more sleep than we do! Two is twice the fun. ty
Sometimes, fortune falls on us! It wasn't my intention to have my children so close together, but so many positive things came of this happy accident, that I came to think of 13 months as the ideal spacing. By the time they were 1 & 2, they played together for long periods of time. Sibling rivalry wasn't a problem, as it is when the oldest has had years of exclusive parental attention prior to the invader's arrival. The second one walked early, talked early, and was potty-trained at 1 1/2 with no problems, all due to observing his brother and trying to keep up. So instead of having diapers for 4 or 5 years, we were finished in 2 1/2. In many ways they were like twins, complementing each other's strengths/weaknesses, and were always best friends. They are married now, and don't live in the same community, but never had big fights or break-ups, and still get together every month or so. So have fun, and enjoy your good fortune! Susan
My husband and I are planning for baby #2 and wanted some feedback on sibling spacing. Baby #1(boy) just turned two. Various factors leave us deciding between a 3 or 4 year age gap. We would love to hear from the experts (that's you!) out there what these age gaps are like for parents and siblings. Of course, we know that child personalities will play a huge role in how well the two play together, but any sage advice would be most welcome! Family Planning
I highly recommend 4 1/2 years as just about an ideal spacing. Many of our friends spaced their children 2-3 years apart and I saw a lot of sibling hatred, sometimes surprisingly vicious. By 4 1/2, our older child was secure and welcomed the new addition to the family. The two children play together constantly, almost always with delight. Sometimes they squabble, but they always say they love each other, and they frequently give each other hugs and help each other. I think they're far enough apart to eliminate much of the competition factor... at least so far! Hoping it continues!
We have three kids now aged 15 1/2, 12, and 8. I was happy with the spacing--and I don't think it makes much difference really if they are three or four years apart, especially since you can't really plan these things down to the month anyway...The older two are three grade levels apart, the youngest is four grade levels behind his sister, though he could have been three--he has a November birthday so we started him in kindergarten at age 5 rather than 4. My only caveat is that if you're only planning on two, this spacing is great. However, there are almost seven years between the oldest and the youngest, and this poses challenges when it comes to doing things together as a family. The oldest is ready for multi-day overnight bike trips when the youngest is just learning to ride; teenagers' language is a charming addition to an eight- year-old's vocabulary (not), etc. If you're planning more than two--have them closer together or a lot farther apart! Torn between three PTAs
My boys are three years apart. I have found this to be a great spread. My oldest was old enough and independent enough that I had time for the baby, but was at that selfish stage yet so we didn't get any jealousy poping up until the baby was one (and the older was 4) and tough enough to handle the occaisional pushes/shoves/pokes/hit his brother attempted.
The other reason I really like this age gap is that at three I still felt pretty ''strapped down'' by my oldest. I had more freedom, and got more sleep, than when he was 1, but he still needed me a lot. Now that he is four, he is really independent. When we go out alone together it is not a big deal... we don't need to haul around stuff, we can go more places, etc. Giving up the freedom of a three year old and going back to a baby wasn't nearly as painful as I imagine giving up my recent four year old freedom. JMHO. Mom to 4.5 and 1.5 boys
If you have the opportunity to plan the spacing, 4 years apart seems the worst to me. The 2nd child always gets the short end of the stick. When the 1st is graduating from highschool the 2nd is graduating from 8th grade, who's graduation will be minimized (or missed totally)? And again when the first is graduating from college. Anon
About 9-12 months ago there was a very looooong discussion on this exact topic. (Did you check the archives?) I was fascinated b/c I was expecting my 2nd child at the time (my kids are 2 yrs 3 months apart) and had strong feelings that closer is better as it was the case with my own sister. (We are 13 months apart.) What I gleaned from all of the discussion is that the spacing is right that is right for the parents, and the children will be close or not close in their relationship or compatability in unpredictable ways. There were siblings 2 years apart that fought all the time and there were siblings 9 years apart that were very close. Some reported that their relationships changed over the decades. When my 2nd child came and it was a boy, I realized I had been wanting a girl, perhaps to recreate the sister relationship that I had grown up with. I felt released from that subconscious desire and am looking forward to seeing how my children develop their own interdependence and independence. Good luck! anon
My partner and I have a 16 month old, and we are trying to decide if we should start trying to have another baby now, or if it is better to wait a few years. We both have siblings close in age, and while this made for some rivalry, it was also great to have a playmate growing up, and I think there is something to be said for being so close in age that you can't remember life without a sibling, when you had both parents all to yourself. At the same time, I know it is incredibly hard to raise two young kids, and I also think it might be nice for our little one to get to be the baby for several years, without having to grow up in ways due to a smaller sibling. I am curious to hear people's thoughts on the ideal age spread, with respect to what is best for the kids, how it is for the parents, and the financial side of it as well (we both work, so if we have another one soon we'll be paying for childcare for two.) I am fairly young (29) so we can afford to wait a few years if that is what seems best for our family. I am particularly interested to hear from people that have more than two kids, with two close together and one farther apart, since you have experience with both sibling age differences. But all comments and input are welcome. Thanks! Considering number 2
I have three children, ages 10, 7 and 2 years. The three year age gap between the first two worked well since they weren't spaced too closely to be near twins yet they are close enough in age to be able to play well now. We didn't plan on the third to be nearly five years younger than the middle child but that was a blessing, too, for the older two were self sufficient enough with new baby in tow. I can feel that natural break in ages when we do activities as a family. The older two would end up doing things with one parent and the toddler would do something else with the other parent. The toddler currently just goes along with the flow but over time, she's coming into her own activities. There have been times when it would be easier if the kids were in more or less the same age range so that we can do things together. Ideal spacing is a very individual decision. As you state, there are advantages and disadvantages to close or farther apart spacing. Those around me state that closer spacing is harder when the kids are very young, but easier when they grow older and can play and relate to one another. And the differences in farther spacing are more pronounced when they get older. Also, there are differences in dynamics with genders (i.e. two brothers, two sisters, boy-girl, girl-boy) that come into play. Mom of three
I think at least three years difference is a good idea. My two children were born exactly two years apart and I do regret that my oldest was not babied for another year. And the first six months (a newborn and a toddler) were SO hard! my two cents
Although I only have one child right now, let me tell you about having an older brother and sister myself. I hear all the time about how great it is to have siblings close and how distant siblings feel if they are spaced further apart. My brother is 10 years older than me and my sister is 6 years older than me and I couldn't have been a happier kid or closer to both of them, both as a young child and as an adult. I think closeness depends on the siblings (and parents) themselves and not on spacing. Therefore, I tend to discount spacing issues based on how close people were or were not to their own siblings. You might be interested in some extensive research by Burton White (which he writes about in the book Raising a Happy, Unspoiled Child -- a very interesting and enlightening book based on research and not just opinion although somewhat repetitive and not so practical). His research/observations suggests that an ideal spacing is for the baby to be 36 months of age or older when the next one is born. The research in his book convinced me that I would wait to try to conceive again until my son would be 3 years old when the younger was born (even though I am too old to wait much longer!). It might be worth your reading it for that input and to see for yourself what research he bases his conclusions on. You might want to contrast this information with equally compelling stories you're likely to hear from people who are quite delighted to have their babies close together; it is somewhat practical if you have to take a break in your career -- then you only have one break, for example. anon
I have 3 children. My first two are 4 years 3 months apart and my youngest is 2 years 3 months younger than my middle son. From what I have experienced there are pros and cons to both senarios. My daughter didn't suffer from too much jealousy when my son was born b/c she was old enough to understand that babies are helpless, need a lot of care, etc. but I have found that as they grow older their abilities and interests are so different that many outings are boring for one or too difficult. Just a trip to the park can be more difficult since my daughter will want to be in the ''big'' kid area while I need to be in the toddler area with my son. Since I can't be both places one child is always a little disappointed.
The closer spaced siblings will probably have more playtime together but at this point they are much more physically taxing. I keep reminding myself that this phase will pass though. Once my son can do more for himself I think I will be able to enjoy this spacing more.
So, all that said. Having them close together is more work in the short run but I think in the long run it's easier and more fun for the kids and parents. Gabrielle Ohleyer
Bottom line....I think it doesn't matter what the age spread is. My brothers and I are are 7 and 13 years apart....I never had siblings for playmates. I had one brother who teased me and one who was my wonderful big brother/daddy type. When my middle brother went away to college we became close friends..as I grew up I also became friends with his friends. Today he and his wife and daughter are of the most important people in my life. My 2 boys are 4 1/2 years apart....they fight, they play, they fight, they play. As they get older they have more in common. I think it was easier for me having an infant with one child at least a little bit self sufficient. I have friends with kids 18 months apart (+/-)...it's really hard the first few years taking care of two babies, but usually they kids play with each other....OR NOT!! There's also no saying that you will get pregnant when you hope to/or if you're adopting that you'll get the adoptive baby when you hope to.
So, again, I don't think there is an ideal age spread. Each has its plusses and minus's. Good luck, Anon, please
Well, my kids are 14, almost 11yrs and almost 11 months. But, I won't be very helpful, because I think both scenarios were ''perfect'' at the time the younger child was born. Remember that if you work you'll be paying childcare for two children either way...so you can decide to spend it NOW, or LATER. Maybe with two under 3 you'd decide to take time off and eliminate childcare costs (when my daughter was in day care that was a popular choice, because the care was so expensive it was not cost-effective with two --- and many families had at least one parent who wanted to be home).
Like many decisions we want to be logical -- the spacing between kids is not. My sisters were 16 months apart and hated each other. My nieces were 16 months apart and are best friends. You may have to make the decision on other grounds...and determine to make the best of what you get. As you noted, what's good at one age may not be at another, so there isn't a perfect answer. Good luck with what happens. Heather
My 2 cents: my kids are 4 years apart and that worked very well for us in several ways, including allowing us to recover financially so that we could afford extended work leave with the second child.
However, this is the best advice I have ever heard on this topic: the best time to have the next child is when the parents are ready for it! jennifer